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http://www.flash.net/~thinkman/articles/gal1-10b.htm ^ | 5/24/02 | Philip Veitch

Posted on 05/24/2002 5:27:52 PM PDT by RnMomof7

GALATIANS 1:10 -

MAN'S FAVOR?


Philip Veitch

"For do I persuade men or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ." -- GALATIANS 1:10

Amid earlier observations, the force of 1.8, 9 carries into 1.10, what Luther calls (1) an "ardor" for God’s gospel. The sense: "Galatians, how 'bout it? What do you think, fellas? Do I seek God’s or man’s favor? What about the disputes, difficulties, trials, shipwrecks, false witnesses, assassination attempts, the stoning, and other foul barkings? At Iconium, Lystra or Derbe, for starters? I don’t endure these things, folks, because I'm a human-pleaser. My eye is on the Divine Being".

Unlike Paul, let’s try a different path and seek human favor (tongue firmly in cheek). Let's present the gospel in a "user-friendly" way with lots of funny stories and the goal of offending no one. We could shift the focus (2) to the One who is there to help (a little emoting helps here), not God in all of His Sovereign Majesty as Creator, Sustainer, and Lord of creation. We could present the gospel as a way "to meet our needs" rather than it’s highest purpose to glorify the eternal God and His grace (Eph.1.6).

We could keep the content of the gospel to basal levels (3), bleaching total depravity with high-power detergents. No more "...and men loved darkness rather than the light because their deeds were evil" (Jn.3.19) or that the unjustified are "dead in sins and trespasses"...children of wrath, captives of Satan, and condemned (Eph.2.1-3). We could avoid all talk about the bondage of the mind, will and affections (4). We could genuflect to the idol of free will, never adequately discussing sin's impact. In fact, we could invent new words for offenses against a holy God and transgressions of divine law: "shortcomings", "mere peccadilloes" perhaps, glossing over the biblical portrait of inveterate hatred in the mind (Rom.8.7), the will (Rom.3.20) and the affections (Jn.3.17ff.). God loves everybody, period.

We could encourage people to consider themselves Christians because they prayed a simple prayer of commitment (and fill the pews), avoiding the larger sense of the biblical word, "salvation", as a sovereign life-work of God with a beginning (regeneration) and indubitable consequences for life (sanctification and perseverence of the saints). We could define faith as a single, efficaceous mental event making good works commendable, but not necessary. We could avoid such warnings as "work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to do of His good pleasure." Mmmm? Judgment and hell too would need dilution, if not outright excision, in hymns, liturgy, counseling and, of course, tracts, sermons, books, Sunday School classes and email notes (5). The agenda would need to mix in some "universalism" as Billy Graham has noted:

"I used to think that pagans in far-off countries were lost and were going to hell if they did not have the Gospel of Jesus Christ preached to them. I no longer believe that. I believe there are other ways of recognizing the existence of God through nature, for instance and plenty of other opportunities, therefore, of saying yes to God."(6)

Think of it: no more need for evangelism, missions and preaching really...and the money and time we would save. Those "pagans in far-off countries" would appreciate our inclusivity since they do well without evangelistic intrusion. The cultural anthropologists too, who disparage missions as western imperialism, would warm up as we got with their caring program...seeking their favor and fellowship. Evangelical Machiavellianism? (7) I wonder how this would wash with Paul? You know, he could have avoided all those missionary journeys, conflicts and the like. But, Galatians 1.10, "For do I persuade men or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ."

Prayer : I’m sick. I can’t pray now. Perhaps later.

END NOTES

1. Martin Luther, Lectures on Galatians (1535), p.58.

2. This is an "emphasis argument" admittedly, but "shifts of emphasis" need to be watched. I suggest that that is how we lose or gain biblical focuses. Never quick, just slow, subtle, and imperceptible.

3. The Four Spiritual Laws (Campus Crusade for Christ)

4. Martin Luther, The Bondage of the Will (St. Louis, MO: Concordia Publishing Company).

5. We’ll want to take our lead from Marcion (late 2nd century) in our selection of Sunday School material too.

6. Standard Bearer (May, 1997), an interview between Billy Graham and Bob Schuller (Crystal Cathedral).

7. Nicolo Machiavelli (1469-1527), courtier, political theorist, and papal diplomat rightly believed that "evil is a human characteristic and therefore a factor that politics must take into account". Bard Thompson, Humanists and Reformer (Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 1988), pp. 298-305. Although we assume human evil with Paul, like Machiavelli, with some flattery, we can predict the listener’s desire to not hear about his sin, give it up in repentance, embrace a Savior, and surrender to a Sovereign God. If we flatter the sinner, maybe he’ll come back next Sunday, join one of our committees, and, yes, contribute to the building fund.


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: calvin; theology; ticklingears; truth
I have been told I am not nice..I have been told to be more like the Luther that was posted by a sweet Calvinist..well folks Luther was no wimp...inspite of the attempt to picture him that way. He spoke loud and clear

My word for the night is TOUGH !

... Mic 7:5 Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom.

1 posted on 05/24/2002 5:27:53 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Jerry_M;the_doc;CCWoody; Matchett-PI; JenB;oneofhis; Diamond...
bump
2 posted on 05/24/2002 5:29:18 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Bump for tough love.
3 posted on 05/24/2002 5:34:41 PM PDT by Wrigley
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To: RnMomof7
Can you get that little guy who keeps rolling up the world,
that guy needs help scroll down he's on the left hand side?

4 posted on 05/24/2002 5:50:09 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Wrigley
Psa 12:2 They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: [with] flattering lips [and] with a double heart do they speak.

It is easy to confuse being liked with being in God's will. They hated Jesus, they dispised Him. He was not their best friend He was the speaker of truth.

They hung him for that.But He left some wisdom behind

Luk 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you [from their company], and shall reproach [you], and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

5 posted on 05/24/2002 6:09:18 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
I am not sure where we disagree. I agree that we need a strong defense of what the Bible teaches. Personal BS, and I mean personal should go. The rest should stay. Go back and read my email to you.
6 posted on 05/24/2002 6:11:56 PM PDT by Wrigley
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To: restornu
Interesting that you would choose an existentialist symbol for your page. Are you familiar with Camus?

Try this link for a start:

Myth of Sisyphus for the story, and this:

Albert Camu if you are interested in Camus, who was anything not, as far as I know, a Christian of any kind.

Hank

7 posted on 05/24/2002 6:25:39 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: restornu
rest ..that is my life...no smile!
8 posted on 05/24/2002 6:26:15 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Hank Kerchief;RnMomof7
I thank you for the info on this little guy. I know that R7 collects funny and unusal icons, so I ask her to move him over to this board:)

But I did appreciate readin about "Camus"!

9 posted on 05/24/2002 6:33:45 PM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu
Oppps I will
10 posted on 05/24/2002 6:41:30 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: restornu

The story of my week :>)

11 posted on 05/24/2002 6:42:31 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Thank for this icon and I pray that you should welcome every afflictiion as an opportunity to heard and wait on the Lord and not let ourselves get in the way.

Therefore, he giveth this promise unto you, with an immutable covenant that they shall be fulfilled; and all things wherewith you have been afflicted shall work together for your good, and to my name’s glory, saith the Lord.

12 posted on 05/24/2002 6:52:55 PM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu
I think I will save it rest.
13 posted on 05/24/2002 7:34:52 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
I like that icon... :-)
14 posted on 05/24/2002 7:38:04 PM PDT by jude24
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To: RnMomof7
Stolen for my AOL Instant Messenger buddy icon...
15 posted on 05/24/2002 7:40:15 PM PDT by jude24
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To: jude24
Any comment on the teaching or are you afraid someone will not like you?
16 posted on 05/24/2002 7:40:55 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
It reminds us that the Lords loves us R7, and wants us to succeed:)
17 posted on 05/24/2002 7:46:36 PM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu
You have a positive attitude rest
18 posted on 05/24/2002 7:49:58 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
We could keep the content of the gospel to basal levels (3), bleaching total depravity with high-power detergents. No more "...and men loved darkness rather than the light because their deeds were evil" (Jn.3.19) or that the unjustified are "dead in sins and trespasses"...children of wrath, captives of Satan, and condemned (Eph.2.1-3). We could avoid all talk about the bondage of the mind, will and affections (4). We could genuflect to the idol of free will, never adequately discussing sin's impact. In fact, we could invent new words for offenses against a holy God and transgressions of divine law: "shortcomings", "mere peccadilloes" perhaps, glossing over the biblical portrait of inveterate hatred in the mind (Rom.8.7), the will (Rom.3.20) and the affections (Jn.3.17ff.). God loves everybody, period.

This is the challange of evangelism -- how to present the Gospel as it really is, and yet do so in simplicity. It makes little sense to go out there and focus on the doctrines of grace that I as a believer couldn't accept until recently, but on the other hand, I have to be honest. I have to present the Gospel-- woe if I do not preach it!! I must tell others that all men are sinners incapable of pleasing God, but God has provided the way for us to be reconciled to Him! A balance hard to find it is. (Man, my diction like Yoda beginning to sound is!)

You know, I think you hit upon one of my weaknesses. Lately, I've been wanting to be conciliatory. I don't know what the proper balance is-- sometimes it's important to fight for doctrine, I just don't know when.

19 posted on 05/24/2002 7:52:01 PM PDT by jude24
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To: jude24
You know, I think you hit upon one of my weaknesses. Lately, I've been wanting to be conciliatory. I don't know what the proper balance is-- sometimes it's important to fight for doctrine, I just don't know when.

I felt a need to confront you on that jude..your silence was very telling:>)

It has never been easy..I think it is part of our sin nature to want to be accepted. God is working on me with it too. In the last few days this message has been given to me in 5 or 6 ways..

I do not think that means we need to argue with all our Christian friends..but I do think it means saying what you believe in spite of the consequences. Not being something you are not!

1Cr 9:16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!

20 posted on 05/24/2002 8:03:11 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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