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To: DaveMSmith
God has revealed the Trinity through His Word, through my thinking in faith in Him by His Word and by the indwelling of all three persons of the Godhead in the believer. If you are not a believer, then soulish thinking is merely the natural tendancy to account for these things which have been reported to you. We also may want to be aware that the malevolent deceiver may actually speak to us supernaturally attempting to counterfeit as a revelation from God. The Adversary and other fallen angels sometimes seek to be worshipped as God themselves. God, though, in eternity past has prepared a plan for each of us. Through faith in Christ, we are able to have a relationship with Him on His terms. Each believer is on equal status before the Lord in our regenerated spirit. We all have access and are priests to Him through Christ. This is a facet of our relationship with God which isn't counterfeitable by Artificial Intelligence. AI cannot regenerate the spirit. There is only one name under heaven as our Messiah it that is of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus. The whole Trinity of persons was hatched by the Nicean Council. The whole of the Athanasian Creed would be correct except for the plural of person. Interestingly, an eight year old girl who simply is communicated a portion of His Word, who thinks about only one of the three persons of the Godhead, and places Christ as her object of her thinking, a simple faith stretching just a little more than absolutely no faith at all, may then have a regenerated spirit, and born again into newness of life, having an eternal relationship with God established by Him and not able to be produced by any other.

Groups such as the those who developed the Nicene Creed, may have indeed recognized the Trinity, but then again any student of Scripture, who simply takes in His Word, thinking it, through faith in Him (after confession and turning away from sin for the believer) is now available for God the Holy SPirit to grow and sanctify both the believer's thinking (soul) and his spirit to understand the Trinity per His pace. I discern your posts are spoken as though from one who has no relationship with God, yet speaks from a soulish perspective. They might also simply be those of one who seeks to malevolently deceive, or one who lacks knowledge and has fallen into a form of arrogance. In either case, even more blessed are those who write through faith in Him.

36 posted on 08/19/2006 5:15:47 PM PDT by Cvengr
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To: Cvengr
John 10:30 I and My Father are one."

I am not here to change your thinking. Worshiping three gods, however, is not a correct perception of the Lord Jesus Christ. If a person maintains an illusion of three persons or three gods, conjunction with the Lord is not possible. They will not become enlightened or regenerated until the next life where angels take great care to teach that God is one.

The Lord is not divisible by human beings. He is infinite.

I agree totally the Lord has a Divine plan for all. By understanding His Divine Providence, we can see the things in our past from a spiritual degree. During regeneration, this became very clear.

Luke 19:11-27 11 Now as they heard these things, He spoke another parable, because He was near Jerusalem and because they thought the kingdom of God would appear immediately. 12 Therefore He said: "A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom and to return. 13 So he called ten of his servants, delivered to them ten minas, F122 and said to them, 'Do business till I come.' 14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a delegation after him, saying, 'We will not have this man to reign over us.' 15 And so it was that when he returned, having received the kingdom, he then commanded these servants, to whom he had given the money, to be called to him, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading. 16 Then came the first, saying, 'Master, your mina has earned ten minas.' 17 And he said to him, 'Well done, good servant; because you were faithful in a very little, have authority over ten cities.' 18 And the second came, saying, 'Master, your mina has earned five minas.' 19 Likewise he said to him, 'You also be over five cities.' 20 Then another came, saying, 'Master, here is your mina, which I have kept put away in a handkerchief. 21 For I feared you, because you are an austere man. You collect what you did not deposit, and reap what you did not sow.' 22 And he said to him, 'Out of your own mouth I will judge you, you wicked servant. You knew that I was an austere man, collecting what I did not deposit and reaping what I did not sow. 23 Why then did you not put my money in the bank, that at my coming I might have collected it with interest?' 24 And he said to those who stood by, 'Take the mina from him, and give it to him who has ten minas.' 25 (But they said to him, 'Master, he has ten minas.') 26 For I say to you, that to everyone who has will be given; and from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 27 But bring here those enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, and slay them before me.' "

I know what the Lord has told me through reading and meditating on His Word and its confirmed in countless ways daily. I didn't expect to get a serious reception to my announcement but there it is. I post under my own name.

Eight year olds cannot have a regenerated spirit. Regeneration cannot take place before adulthood. The interiors of a children's mind are not developed yet. 'Original sin' is utter nonsense.

My faith does not allow for mysteries. The nature of the Lord, heaven and hell, his Church on earth and most importantly our own spiritual and celestial development -- our minds and how the Lord interacts with us -- is fully disclosed. We are not asked to beleive the unexplainable.

People of this nation want a true understanding of the Lord before they accept Him and Believe in Him. Trying to scare people will hellfire and eternal damnation does not work. The Lord leads those to heaven with freedom, love and reason.

Blessings,

39 posted on 08/21/2006 8:24:32 PM PDT by DaveMSmith ("With everyone, Christian charity consists in his performing faithfully the duties of his calling".)
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