[The Grammarian]

Unfortunately, I really don't have the time to read through the full thing. I will say, however, that I have not really had a problem on deciding whether the corruption in us is "substantial" or "relational." This person makes a fairly good argument against the "substantial" view of sin, but I don't see it as that big of an issue. They're both descriptors and tools to explain things beyond our experience, and one is about as good as the other. The author's last footnote on the complete absence of a balance between process and crisis is fairly accurate, I think; I speak second-hand at best, but it is a view taken by a man named A.J. Smith in his 1953 book, Bible Holiness and the Modern, Popular, Spurious. The Fundamental Wesleyan Society, publishers of the Arminian Magazine, consider themselves largely a continuation of this man's ministry.

[Itsfreewill]

I think the Lords Commandment is to "Love One Another!"

And that Satan's commandment is to "Batter One Another!"

Who are they that always want to clubber others into their belief? John Wesley is that you?

Are you the wicket one who is bashing others, and slamming others, and if they don't pronounce them in HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!