[fortheDeclaration]

A God who cannot control history because of countless men with wills not fully dependent on his own can only make salvation a bare "possibility." Christ might have died in vain. Being "free," all men might refuse to exercise their supposedly "God-given- freedom" to "draw their check for 'eternal life' put in the Bank of Heaven for all men." God's plan, to call out a people for himself, might never have been realized.

Nothing like setting up a strawman right in the beginning.

Those who believe that man has a will do not necessary follow the extreme Arminians who deny that God controls history. God can give man choices and still accomplish all that He wants to accomplish.

[melsec]

To quote Karl Barth when asked by a student after some fifty years of studying and teaching what great wisdom he had learned that he could pass on to his students he replied "Jesus loves me this I know fore the Bible tells me so"

To be honest 20 years as a Catholic and 22 years as a Protestant have lead me to beleive that this is all I really know 100%.

God Bless

Mel

PS. That does not mean I am not grateful for people such as yourself who are willing to look into these things. I must say however that I neither understand or am convinced by most of the things that you speak of. All I know is God saved me and that I love him for it and I try to do as He asks of me.

[lockeliberty]

Besides his disagreement with Arminianism what do you think of his Apologetics?