[nickcarraway]

I didn't say Calvinists, I said John Calvin himself. Weren't you aware of his beliefs about Mary? Iwill get reference for you.

Are you aware, for example, that Martin Luther had the Assumption of Mary put on his tomb?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Interesting tactic. Simply SAY your opponents agree with you, regardless of the truth.

LUKE 11: 27-28. "As Jesus said this, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, 'Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts that you sucked!' But Jesus said, 'Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!"

In Calvin's "New Testament Commentaries, Volume 2, he explained the praise of Mary by this woman as "By this homage the woman intended to praise Christ's excellence. It was not Mary she was thinking of -- maybe she had never seen her -- but she magnified Christ's glory by lauding and blessing the womb in which he was carried...Yet Christ does not accord with this woman's saying. Rather, it contains a hint of reproof. 'No,' he says, 'Blessed are they who hear God's word.' We see that Christ thought next to nothing of what the woman praised."

Your feeble assertions can't change the Reformation.

[Zipporah]

You make mention of Calvin AND Luther.. as being in agreement regarding Mary.. see the difference between what I believe and what you believe can be explained in this way, I don't care what either MAN believes or believed or taught for that matter FOR if it is in contridiction to scripture then they were dead wrong.

[drstevej]

"Are you aware, for example, that Martin Luther had the Assumption of Mary put on his tomb?"

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Bogus! see... Martin Luther's Tomb / Epitaph for Henning Goeden

Henceforth desist in posting this disinformation. A retraction is in order too in the name of intellectual honesty.

[PatGoltz]

“Are you aware, for example, that Martin Luther had the Assumption of Mary put on his tomb?”

This is an Urban Legend and it is NOT the case. See this picture:

http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1090619935028903078YLOWeC

Of course, it would be helpful if you explained how someone gets to determine what goes on his own tombstone!

The Assumption was not a dogma of the Catholic church until 1950, anyway, long after Luther died:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assumption_of_Mary