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To: maryz
Exactly, her Grace is imputed from God, not by her own volition. So Mary sinned, but because of God's Grace, his imputed righteousness cleaned her Sin. If Folks want to say she is the "ultimate Christian" because she is "full of Grace", that doesn't dispute the fact it was because what God did, not what Mary did.
34 posted on 05/06/2002 12:01:32 PM PDT by 11th Commandment
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To: 11th Commandment
I don't disagree at all that it was God's actions that made Mary sinless. Mary did nothing to "earn" that sinlessness. The Catholic position is that Mary was cleansed of Original Sin upon conception. Pre-Jesus, there was no Baptism in water and spirit, and Baptism removes original sin from a Christian's soul (but not the free will to sin again). Mary had none of that. She was "full of grace" PRIOR to saying YES to God.

God bless.

38 posted on 05/06/2002 12:42:10 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: 11th Commandment
So Mary sinned, . . .

Huh? New one on me.

45 posted on 05/06/2002 3:17:59 PM PDT by maryz
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To: 11th Commandment
Where exactly in the bible does it say Mary sinned? I'm ready for your citation.
48 posted on 05/06/2002 3:52:34 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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