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To: RnMomof7,
Arminism= works based salvation... The blood of Christ is indeed sufficent for all..but effective only for the elect..

How is that a work?

Arminism...the blood of Christ is of effect for all men if they are smart enough or clever enough to do accept it..Of course you have never explained why some are smarted or more clever..at least not yet...

Because the wicked will not humble themselves to acknowledge that they need God, and they do not believe what God says about their eternal future.

It all starts with believing what God says! The wicked refuse to believe and accept the free gift.

For the Biblical definition of what constitutes a work see Rom.4:4-5, faith is not a work.

What you need to explain is why God who could save everyone doesn't! That is some God that you have!

Frankly, you can keep him, I prefer the God of the Bible, as even the brillant(your words) Piper admitted wants all men to be saved!

101 posted on 05/06/2002 2:06:06 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration
Because the wicked will not humble themselves to acknowledge that they need God, and they do not believe what God says about their eternal future.

I was wicked Dec...I am still wicked Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

It all starts with believing what God says! The wicked refuse to believe and accept the free gift.

Why does one wicked person hear and another not? I say the grace of God preceeds the faith...
Act 18:27 And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:

For the Biblical definition of what constitutes a work see Rom.4:4-5, faith is not a work.

What you need to explain is why God who could save everyone doesn't! That is some God that you have!

He saves all those that will to be saved ... Frankly, you can keep him, I prefer the God of the Bible, as even the brillant(your words) Piper admitted wants all men to be saved!

All men want a solution to their problems ...not all men want Christ..you know how I know that? I am a very clever girl...Look around ya...what do you see? If all men wanted Christ they could have Him by your construct right?......This is an issue of wants ftd...men do not want Christ..they want what they want..

102 posted on 05/06/2002 4:31:03 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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