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Why Jews Can't Be For Jesus
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Posted on 04/29/2002 10:44:32 AM PDT by JediGirl

Why Jews Can't Be For Jesus

By Rabbi Shmuel Arkush, Head of Operation Judaism, fighting missionaries nationwide.

IN BRITAIN today there are various groups energetically targeting Jews. They especially look for those who feel a lack of fulfilment in their lives. They assert that the answer to all problems is belief in Jesus, something which they claim makes you a better Jew! What's so terrible? They seem happy enough. I am not going to stop any of the Jewish things I was doing before, I may even keep a few more! Even if I end up believing in a false Messiah I will still be Jewish.

At the time Jesus lived, prior to the destruction of the second Temple, there were various sects within Judaism. Some say that there could have been as many as several dozen. One of these was a sect led by Jesus.

He was rejected by the Jews of his time, a generation which included some of our greatest Rabbis. The Christian response to the rejection of Jesus by his own people has been nearly two thousand years of efforts to convert Jews to their beliefs. When a Jew accepts Jesus he not only rejects the history of his people but, by adopting Christian faith he places himself outside the Jewish religion.

Christians believe in the Trinity, that G-d consists of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. They say that this three-part G-d is the same as the G-d worshipped by the Jews.

The Torah says, "Hear O Israel, the L-rd is our G-d the L-rd is One." This we say in the Shema, we have it on our doors in the mezuzah and on our hearts and minds in the tefilin.
Christians believe that one cannot approach G-d except through Jesus. All prayers must therefore, be in his name. This is called Mediation.

The Torah starts the Ten Commandments with, "I am the L-rd your G-d, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of slavery. You shall have no other gods before me". Simply G-d does not want us to have any other deities even if we still believe in Him. Limiting an all knowing G-d by claiming He needs a mediator is a violation of this commandment.

Christians say that Jesus was a Prophet who came to change the way it used to be. The Torah warns us about this, "If there arise among you a prophet or a dreamer and he gives you a sign or a miracle. And the sign or miracle comes to pass and he calls you saying 'Let us go after other gods, whom you have not known and let us worship them.' You shall not listen to that prophet or dreamer. For G-d is testing you, to see whether you love the L-rd your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deut. 13:2)

So are you a better Jew, a fulfilled Jew by accepting Jesus? No. By accepting a Christian god you commit a cardinal sin. You become a traitor to your people and cannot be counted a Jew.

The Torah teaches, "It is enough that you carefully observe everything that I am prescribing to you. Do not add to it and do not subtract from it."


This article was first published by UJS as part of the "50 Days for 50 Years" project. For your copy of the revised edition of the book contact the UJS office. (Hopefully the whole book will be on the internet in the near future).


Research work about the real historical origins of Christianity


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Judaism; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: jewsforjesus; michaeldobbs
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To: Bella_Bru
Please reply!
161 posted on 12/25/2002 9:33:00 PM PST by restornu
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To: Bella_Bru
Keep your crap out of my synagogue. Wanna put it on the subway? Fine by me. In my synagogue ? You are just a jerk then.

Since you can not be polite enough to reply I will asure others

1- I don't hand out JFJ flyers,I am a citizen of NYC that rides subways and other pass out the flyer to anyone even to me!I don't put JFJ flyers in synagogue, and I am NOT a JERK!

But you Bella are discourteous!

If you want to get angry throw your hiss fit to the one you are mad at!

162 posted on 12/25/2002 9:45:50 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
The "you" I was referring to are the people who insist on stomping on others' beliefs, e.g. people who fill Cathilic churches with Jack Chick tracts, people that put Jehovah Witness tracts in synagogues, etc. It's not their place to come into someone else's sanctuary and do that.
163 posted on 12/25/2002 11:56:36 PM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: Bella_Bru
This I agree with you, one should NOT go to another house of worship and imposed their views. The way you ended that post it made it sound like I engaged in this. I was only sharing my encounters with JFJ at the subways and also street corners. To invade another turf is disrespectful of anothers faith!

BTW I think Jack Chick tracts are Offensive! To me religion is LOVE and those tracts practiced contention, gossip, faultfinding etc all the things that alienate.

Thank you for making clear your statement>

164 posted on 12/26/2002 5:57:41 AM PST by restornu
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; ksen; DouglasKC; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Ping if you haven't seen this already.
165 posted on 12/26/2002 8:34:30 AM PST by malakhi
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To: JediGirl

bump - for a bookmark...


166 posted on 06/26/2006 11:45:35 AM PDT by jonno
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To: Freetus
And so the hatred continues. I urge all Jews of good conscience to reject this and to become traitors to their people, if that is what it takes - better a traitor to your "people" than a traitor to God. Hate-filled religions are really starting to get tiresome, aren't they?

What hatred? Nobody entitled to share their beliefs anymore? How about the hatred that tells Jews they arent completed Jews without belief in their Jesus type of psuedo-mithraism?

167 posted on 06/26/2006 11:53:49 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: BibChr
A more interesting question, to me, is "Why have so many Jews through the ages embraced the Messiahship of Jesus in spite of the intense family pressure put on many of them not to do so?"

The percentages are miniscule.

168 posted on 06/26/2006 11:58:04 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: JediGirl; Tribune7
Why don't Jews see that the Old Testament prophecies are fulfilled in Jesus?

Because Christians retroactivley force their interpretation of these prophecies. Jews have debunked these a long time ago.

169 posted on 06/26/2006 12:00:52 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Cite the study, please. And be sure that it indicates the percentage Jews who reject their Messiah affirm the Torah as the inerrant word of God.

Otherwise, I'd bet the percentage of Jews who reject Yahweh is pretty large, too. It certainly was in Isaiah's day (see chapter 6).


170 posted on 06/26/2006 12:08:08 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr

Lol. I just discovered I responded to a post of yours from 2002.


171 posted on 06/26/2006 12:35:09 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Well... maybe you just wanted to think it over r-e-a-l-l-y carefully.

Shall I look for your response to my last, sometime in 2010?

(c;

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG
Pyromaniacs

172 posted on 06/26/2006 12:37:11 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Jews have debunked these a long time ago.

"The young woman is with child?" I can prophesy like that. How about "Beer will be drunk this Fourth of July?

Now, "A virgin will give birth" that's a prophesy. Especially since it happened.

173 posted on 06/26/2006 12:57:53 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: BibChr

you'll probably be raptured and I'll be hoping
to be among the 100,000 Jews remaining. :-)


174 posted on 06/26/2006 12:58:25 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Tribune7
Now, "A virgin will give birth" that's a prophesy. Especially since it happened.

did it really? I don't find NT writings to be inspired so I'll just have to take your word for it. :-)

175 posted on 06/26/2006 1:00:29 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Well, if I am, and if you're one of the 144K... see you later.

And happily so.

(c:-


176 posted on 06/26/2006 1:12:15 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Yet they too are waiting for a Messiah so when this Messiah
does come will there be a reception like in

Zechariah 11 thur 14

http://scriptures.lds.org/zech/11

http://scriptures.lds.org/zech/12

http://scriptures.lds.org/zech/13

http://scriptures.lds.org/zech/14


177 posted on 06/26/2006 1:31:30 PM PDT by restornu (Could Harry Reid be a descendant of King Noah? Mosiah 7-29)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
so I'll just have to take your word for it.

Which you may :-)

178 posted on 06/26/2006 5:30:06 PM PDT by Tribune7
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