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To: SJackson
Admiral Moorer's observations are quite correct. The Israel air forces had flown near the Liberty for the previous 8 hours. There is no way in hell that they couldn't know. Furthermore, the TP boats deliberately sank lifeboats as they hit the water.

I read elsewhere that they had straffed lifeboats that had sailors in them and apparently that was an exageration. At any rate, the point was not to get into a debate about the liberty. I am not sure why Ennes says that the Liberty is the only maritime incident of its type without a Congressional inquiry.

The reason I brought it up is as stated. It is one of those discussions just like the one started here that will get one branded an anti-Semite merely because you bring it up.

The slight of hand that goes on with you and your seminar poster buddies is amazing. If I post a picture of a kid targetted by IDF forces and that picture happens to be homed at hoffman's site - I'm obviously a fan....neat logic.

Nevermind that all of the so-called evidence for Al Dura's murder is not conclusive in the slightest as to which side shot him.

There might be some dispute there, but the children blown up in the botched assasination attempt? No dispute. However, you guys don't want to touch that subject with a ten foot pole. Let's scream "joo hater" instead. Much easier.

The 14 year old boy shot in the back after being taunted by IDF forces to come out and throw rocks? "Uh...that dude who wrote for Harper's is a bafoon and hates Israel..." LOL.

I say "Israel has strict gun control laws" and I have veronica claiming this isn't so (only to provide links to articles which confirm my statements) and to top it off, an Israeli chimes in and confirms that only ex-army can get licenses and even then one has to have a good reason, while claiming he is disagreeing with what I've said.

It borders on the insane. What's even more insane is that you people think you're helping your cause.

827 posted on 04/28/2002 8:41:13 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
They ruled it was a case of mistaken identity, an accident, thus there would be not motive.

Since I've progressed from seminar poster to a "you guys" who accuses others of being "joo haters" I think I'll pass on the rest of your rant.

Truth is a bitch, isn't it.

As a reminder, this is the little girl who was murdered by brave Pali freedom fighters. She and her family are what the thread was about.


833 posted on 04/28/2002 9:16:16 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: Demidog
Admiral Moorer's observations are quite correct. The Israel air forces had flown near the Liberty for the previous 8 hours. There is no way in hell that they couldn't know.

If you bother to read the transcript of the Naval Inquiry you will find the exact times of the overflights. There was a considerable time gap between the last flight and the attack. Furthermore although the Liberty had been identified in the morning as being in the area the plot had been taken off the IDF board as it was 6 hours old and it is assumed that no boat will still be in the same place 6 hours later especially in wartime situation.

Furthermore, the TP boats deliberately sank lifeboats as they hit the water.

Outright lie - evidence in the transcript proves that the crew was ordered to throw burning liferafts overboard as they had caught fire during the aircraft strafing and onboard ammunition cooking off. Its true that some crew claim to have seen burning liferafts but they are only assuming that it was due to PT boat fire.

I read elsewhere that they had straffed lifeboats that had sailors in them and apparently that was an exageration.

Another outright lie because no crew abandoned ship.

At any rate, the point was not to get into a debate about the liberty.

So why bring it up?

I am not sure why Ennes says that the Liberty is the only maritime incident of its type without a Congressional inquiry.

What other incident can it be compared to? - not to Pueblo as some would say because there's no comparison. There have in fact been a number of inquiries as has already been pointed out earlier in the thread. This false claim is a required part of the conspiracy/coverup scenario nonsense

The slight of hand that goes on with you and your seminar poster buddies is amazing. If I post a picture of a kid targetted by IDF forces

What credible evidence do you have to substatiate that it was IDF - au contraire the evidence points to him being killed by his own side.

Nevermind that all of the so-called evidence for Al Dura's murder is not conclusive in the slightest as to which side shot him.

You just said he was "targetted by IDF".

The 14 year old boy shot in the back after being taunted by IDF forces to come out and throw rocks? "Uh...that dude who wrote for Harper's is a bafoon and hates Israel..." LOL.

Has it occured to you that the dude is in fact biased and has zilch credibility as documented by CAMERA.. Does he say that "he witnessed" the kids being taunted or is he just reporting what he was told second-hand.?

It borders on the insane. What's even more insane is that you people think you're helping your cause.

And what's your cause DD?

931 posted on 04/30/2002 8:24:14 AM PDT by anapikoros
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