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To: DouglasKC
The bible always refers to Sunday as the first day of the week. There was no "Lords Day" in biblical times. The Lord's Day in Reveleation is the Day of the Lord, the Lords Day, the day that John got transported to in spirit by Jesus Christ to see the future. If it really meant the Lords Day as a day of the week, then it would have to mean the Sabbath, because:

I have to go, so this will be my last post.

I think we are just going to frustrate each other. I don't believe the Lord's Day in Revelation was a special day in the future... I think I have to do some mental gymnastics to make it turn out like that, which, honestly, I can not do. The Lord's Day has always meant Sunday. Church history, I believe, will back that up.

Now, like I said, my father attends an Amstrong church, so, I know all the arguments that you will list for they have been listed for me countless times. And I don't agree with them. I have tried to make the Bible say those things, but it does not (in my opinion). God bless you!

40 posted on 04/19/2002 2:16:15 PM PDT by carton253
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To: carton253
I think we are just going to frustrate each other. I don't believe the Lord's Day in Revelation was a special day in the future... I think I have to do some mental gymnastics to make it turn out like that, which, honestly, I can not do. The Lord's Day has always meant Sunday. Church history, I believe, will back that up.

I won't get frustrated, I promise. :-)

Rev 1:10 I came to be in the Spirit in the Lord's day and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,(Modern King James Version)

Find me one reference in the bible where any day but the sabbath is referred to as the lords day. Days in the bible are called the first day, second day, etc., the lone exception being the seventh day, which is called the sabbath. Also notice that in the translation above it was "in" the Lord's day. That's more accurate because the greek word "en" used here is translated as "in" 99.9% of the time. In fact, that the same word "en" is used in the phrase "in the spirit".

For you to read it as "Sunday", you have to add into the bible the future notion of the Lord's Day as Sunday, you have to disregard the accepted usage of the greek word "en", and you have to believe that Jesus wasn't the Lord of the Sabbath, as he himself stated he was.

It's much easier to accept it the way it's written. Paul was having a vision. In vision, he was transported to the great day of the coming of the Lord, the day of the Lord:

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Now, like I said, my father attends an Amstrong church, so, I know all the arguments that you will list for they have been listed for me countless times. And I don't agree with them. I have tried to make the Bible say those things, but it does not (in my opinion). God bless you!

Our of curiousity, what church does you father attend?

57 posted on 04/19/2002 10:13:51 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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