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To: Matchett-PI
It's not what you know --- it's what you reject that tells the tale.

One cannot reject something that is not honestly offered. If God has created you with an inability to accept an offer, then you have no ability to either accept it or reject it. So utilizing that as a basis, the only people who could possibly reject the gospel are the elect! But they cannot reject it because the grace that is offered is "irresistible." Since it is impossible for them to reject it, it is not "offered," it is foisted.

I think you need to use different terms than "offer and rejection." Those terms have specific meanings and the way you Calvinists use them is inconsistent with their meanings. The non-Calvinist understands that God truly offers salvation and that those who perish are those who truly reject it.

I think the proper Calvinistic terms to use are "foisted" and "hidden." Salvation is "foisted" upon the elect and "hidden" from everyone else. You may not like those terms, but they are clearly a more accurate rendering of your theology than "offered and rejected."

44 posted on 04/17/2002 8:53:33 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
This is the same illogic that says if Christ did not have a sin nature he could not have been truly tempted as the Bible says. Therefore, He either had a sin nature or he wasn't tempted.

BTW, any comments on my post re your psychoanalysis of George Whitefield?

45 posted on 04/17/2002 9:01:30 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: P-Marlowe
"The non-Calvinist understands that God truly offers salvation and that those who perish are those who truly reject it."

PM, can you provide even one scripture reference that clearly says that? - I mean clearly like Acts 13:48 says that a certain number of them were ordained to believe, rather than chose to.

48 posted on 04/17/2002 9:49:13 PM PDT by editor-surveyor
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To: P-Marlowe
"I think the proper Calvinistic terms to use are "foisted" and "hidden." Salvation is "foisted" upon the elect and "hidden" from everyone else. You may not like those terms, but they are clearly a more accurate rendering of your theology than "offered and rejected."

I have no problem with the terms you choose to use in your resentfulness over what God is doing. That's your business.

The fact remains that God's elect will never ultimately reject whatever truths He presents to them.

51 posted on 04/17/2002 10:23:27 PM PDT by Matchett-PI
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