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To: CCWoody
No winston, no matter how many times you say this all only mean all without exception if you yank the verse out of context. But you are famous for this! Let us examine the verse yet one more time for our "doped up" PINO's: "And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write,... Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me." But you are free to continue to beg your Jesuit masters to give you your mind candy. ... Such is the nature of your addiction."

Well, that is certainly a moderate response -- by Calvinist standards. I will ignore the "Jesuit masters" comment and the "mind candy" comment -- both of which defy rational explanation. Let me concentrate on your effort to find a "context" which would restrict the invitiation of Revelation 3:20 to an invitation to a doctrinal investigation of churches simply because it is part of a message addressed to a church.

Suppose (and we know it is not true because Calvinisim would not be invented for 2500 years) but suppose that someone was teaching that only some -- a select few -- could receive the invitation of Christ or that some elaborate performance of 'sound doctrine' was required as a pre-condition of salvation. Is there anything about Jesus' clear statement of His invitation to ALL which would be inappropriate to rebut those fallacious contentions? Of course not.

We see countless instances where Paul, just for one example, writes to churches with individual advice. Nothing in the address of the message to a church restricts the nature of the information being conveyed thereto. So much for your so-called "context".

Of all of the arguments which you have raised against Scripture in defense of the construct, none is more despicable that this bald attempt to deny one of the more beautiful and powerful invitations to ALL to accept Christ into their lives.

And then you have the gall to complain that I do not present the Good News of the Gospel to ALL. Amazing.

1,538 posted on 04/29/2002 8:03:36 PM PDT by winstonchurchill
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To: winstonchurchill
Interesting that a word like all that has both a general and group specific meaning is totally clear to you but IF seems to slip right by ya:>)
1,542 posted on 04/29/2002 8:13:44 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: winstonchurchill
We see countless instances where Paul, just for one example, writes to churches with individual advice. Nothing in the address of the message to a church restricts the nature of the information being conveyed thereto. So much for your so-called "context".

Have it your way. Of course, doesn't it even bother you that you after 6 times being asked you cannot produce the meaning of the gospel? You are free to maintain that Jesus stands at the door of a perverse heart and beggs to be let in, but the mountain of scripture is against you. I must conclude that you really do believe that people are basically good and just need to start acting right. It does kinda move you from the extremes of Arminianism into darker heresies invented by man.

It is becoming more aparent that the Arminians really do not have a gospel message at all....

1,624 posted on 04/30/2002 8:31:59 AM PDT by CCWoody
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