[xzins]

xzins your reading makes no sense..Why predestine those that have already chosen you?

It's FOREKNOW, Rnnie. It's about knowledge.

The answer to your question: Because, foreknowledge is not the same as ACTION, Rn. When he foreknew it, it HAD NOT HAPPENED YET.

The predestining is the step that makes it happen. What God saw as a vision, he implemented in the predestining.

[drstevej]

It's FOREKNOW, Rnnie. It's about knowledge.

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When Jesus says, 'Depart from me I never knew you.' Is that about knowledge too? Absolutely not. It is relational.

[CCWoody]

What God saw as a vision, he implemented in the predestining.

What did God see in a vision; did He observe the "future" or did He create the "future?"