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To: xzins;the_doc;RnMomof7; Corin Stormhands; fortheDeclaration
"Do you believe that God pre-selected irregardless of foreknowledge of choice?"

Do you believe that God didn't give men a choice in the garden?

Do you believe that men didn't exchange the Truth of God that he had for Arminianism (a/k/a:THE Lie of Satan: "You will not die -- but you will be like God to know good and evil").

Do you believe that God didn't have the Elect's names written in "The Book of Life" before the foundation of the earth? If so, please provide legitimate Scriptural support for your assertions, will you? :D

1,314 posted on 04/29/2002 10:14:35 AM PDT by Matchett-PI
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To: Matchett-PI
Given your own answers to all the questions you asked me, why do you care what I believe? The list is pre-selected. The saved will be saved and the lost will be lost. Nothing will change their fate for any of them.
1,329 posted on 04/29/2002 11:24:19 AM PDT by xzins
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To: Matchett-PI, Xzins, Revelation 911, corin stormhands, winstonchurchill
Do you believe that God didn't give men a choice in the garden?

What do you mean that God gave man a choice in the Garden. Not according to your system He didn't! Adam was decreed to fall, by the directive will of God. It was God who wanted Adam to sin (all for his Glory ofcourse!)

Do you believe that men didn't exchange the Truth of God that he had for Arminianism (a/k/a:THE Lie of Satan: "You will not die -- but you will be like God to know good and evil").

Yes, man did, but the Second Adam, The Lord Jesus Christ, has paid the price for that sin. Now, all who want to come may come and get in the Second Adam by faith in His work on the Cross (Gal.3:26-29)

Do you believe that God didn't have the Elect's names written in "The Book of Life" before the foundation of the earth? If so, please provide legitimate Scriptural support for your assertions, will you? :D

Yes, but those names could be blotted out

And the Lord said unto Moses, whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book (Ex.32:33)
Finally, regarding Gen.3 that has been taken of by the Second Adam.
But not as the offense, so also is the free gift. For it through the offense of one many be dead, much more the grace of God and the gift of grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. And not as if it was by one that sinned, so is the gift for the judgement was by one to condemnation but the free gift is of many offenses unto justification. For if by one man's offense death reigned by one, much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ, Therefore as by the offense of one judgement came upon all men to condemnation even so by the righteousenss of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification. For so by one man's sin disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ. (Rom.5:15-21)

1,378 posted on 04/29/2002 1:28:02 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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