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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Revelation 911
Your #1144 to Rev: In case you had not noticed, Rev911, I chose my language in describing John Calvin's place in Glory in a manner designed specifically to conform exactly to the very Promises that the Bible makes to every Believing Christian.

Well then, since we are all Believing Christians, you will surely count us all in who post here, and cease all your ruminations about spurious conversion among us, and your tortuous reasoning about how believers are not believing.

If you don't, it mattereth not, for God is our judge. (How come not a word about His role in our judgment and salvation other than "whacking"? Not even a "God willing" in acknowledgement of His sovereignty?)

I am sure that John Calvin, whether in heaven or hell now (hopefully the former), is now a staunch defender of religious freedom, a staunch opponent of burning heretics at the stake, greatly rejoices in our God-given free will (properly understood), sits beside you many a day, and begs you to hearken to the tender remonstrances of us free-willers.

1,219 posted on 04/29/2002 3:58:38 AM PDT by White Mountain
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To: White Mountain,Cubicle Guy
Could it be that our Dear Christian friends,
speak from anti-Mormon talking points.
and don't pray and ponder our words.
They just give us the latest talking points.
Truly would be non productive
in the things that are of the Lord.
1,221 posted on 04/29/2002 4:19:53 AM PDT by restornu
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To: White Mountain
How is that so many reports say
Calvin was a tender harthed soul?
Yet he burn folks at the stake,
sound like Gephart/Dashel:)
1,222 posted on 04/29/2002 4:41:15 AM PDT by restornu
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To: White Mountain;orthodoxpresbyterian;xzins;forthedeclaration;winstonchurchill
I am sure that John Calvin, whether in heaven or hell now (hopefully the former)

One has to wonder though, given his refusal to repent for the crispification of Servetus if Heaven was the ultimate stop on the Partridge family tour bus. I think it common ground we would not wish hell on anyone. And perhaps he does reside with God, however, a "saint" he was not and a lesser crown he sports.

1,225 posted on 04/29/2002 5:12:24 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: White Mountain;OrthodoxPresbyterian
Well then, since we are all Believing Christians, you will surely count us all in who post here, and cease all your ruminations about spurious conversion among us, and your tortuous reasoning about how believers are not believing.

Ahhhhh but what do you "believe?" Certainly not what we believe WM

You believe that your god was once a man as you are..that he has flesh and blood and a wife (godess )in heaven..that they have a sexual relationship that produces souls, and that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers

The biblical teaching that God is spirit is completely rejected in Mormondom. LDS Apostle Bruce R. McConkie states:

False creeds teach that God is a spirit essence that fills the immensity of space and is every where and nowhere in particular present. In a vain attempt to support this doctrine, formulated by councils in the early days of the great apostasy, it is common for apologists to point to the statement in the King James Bible which says, "God is spirit." (John 4:24). The fact is that this passage is mistranslated; instead, the correct statement, quoted in context reads:

The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father seeketh such to worship him. For unto such hath God promise his Spirit. And they who worship him, must worship in spirit and in truth (Inspired Version,1 John 4:25-26)" (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 318; emphasis added).

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You have your gods and we have Our one God..the creator of heaven and earth..of ALL things visible and invisible

1,267 posted on 04/29/2002 8:02:51 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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