[HamiltonJay]

Think your estimates may be low, abortion rates have been 1.5MM to 1.8MM per year for a very long time.. true toll is probably in the 40-50MM in the US now.. about the same as the Siberian camps.

Of course the camps are long closed, the infant slaughter houses still operate full tilt.

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Even if your estimates are correct (which I don't necessarily concede), it still doesn't come close to what the communists have done.  Now, if you throw in the forced abortion done in China, maybe...

[dheretic]

Of course the camps are long closed, the infant slaughter houses still operate full tilt.

It is disgusting to see you denigrate the suffering caused by and severity in those concentration camps by comparing mere abortion to them. Before you get righteous on me, ask yourself whether you'd be willing to get in line and adopt an unwanted baby. If you aren't then shut up, you have no moral authority of any kind on this issue. Unless you want to breed social conditions for massive increases in welfare spending I suggest you rethink **the logistics** of opposing abortion-on-demand of any kind being legal.

You "pro-life" (anti-choice is far more appropraite) need to face up to the following issues raised by your beliefs should they be made public policy:

1. 1.5-1.88M more babies a year that are unwanted cannot be housed by our adoption systems
2. Even if the rate dropped down to only a few hundred thousand it would strain the system severely if not break it entirely
3. Most people will not adopt babies they think are "defective." Are you willing to adopt a crack baby? And that raises the moral question: should such babies even be legally allowed to be born since their lives will be hell?
4. You will give ammunition to those that favor increased welfare spending
5. You will give ammunition to those that want to create or vastly expand government supported adoption centers
6. Many parents are not as progressive and caring as you think on sex issues. What are you going to do when many girls nationwide get beaten, disowned and/or thrown out of their homes for getting pregnant? Probably nothing, many of you are the same types that would say that she somehow brought that on herself.

[Leto]

While the abortion industry is massive here in the US, I believe the numbers are greater in the communist countires and Europe.