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To: berned
A correction, berned.

You make the claim that John Paul II has declared that Muslims are "saved".

You provide a link to an article which purports to substantiate this claim, but it does not.

The Pope said nothing of the kind. A Jesuit theologian named Jacques Dupuis is the one making this claim and interpreting John Paul II's words in this way.

However, what you do not know is that Mr. Dupuis is a theologian whose theories have been examined by the Pope and condemned. You see, Mr. Dupuis believes that Muslims can be saved, which is untrue, and so he does his best to promote is theories by telling other untruths. One of these untruths is his claim that the Pope agrees with him.

However, in June 1999 the Vatican called Mr. Dupuis doctrinal orthodoxy into question and examined his book entitled Toward a Christian Theology of Religious Pluralism. The Vatican found that his book was lacking doctrinal accuracy with regard to "the sole and universal salvific mediation of Christ and the unicity and completeness of Christ’s revelation".

As a result, Mr. Dupuis was informed that he would no longer have the right to call himself a Catholic theologian unless he affirmed the following in writing:

1. It must be firmly believed that Jesus Christ, the Son of God made man, crucified and risen, is the sole and universal mediator of salvation for all humanity.

2. It must also be firmly believed that Jesus of Nazareth, Son of Mary and only Saviour of the world, is the Son and Word of the Father. For the unity of the divine plan of salvation centred in Jesus Christ, it must also be held that the salvific action of the Word is accomplished in and through Jesus Christ, the Incarnate Son of the Father, as mediator of salvation for all humanity. It is therefore contrary to the Catholic faith not only to posit a separation between the Word and Jesus, or between the Word’s salvific activity and that of Jesus, but also to maintain that there is a salvific activity of the Word as such in his divinity, independent of the humanity of the Incarnate Word.

3. It must be firmly believed that Jesus Christ is the mediator, the fulfilment and the completeness of revelation. It is therefore contrary to the Catholic faith to maintain that revelation in Jesus Christ (or the revelation of Jesus Christ) is limited, incomplete or imperfect. Moreover, although full knowledge of divine revelation will be had only on the day of the Lord’s coming in glory, the historical revelation of Jesus Christ offers everything necessary for man’s salvation and has no need of completion by other religions."

The quote from Mr. Dupuis in the article you linked to was taken from an interview Mr. Dupuis gave in 1997. The article you link was itself written in 1999. The document above, in which Mr. Dupuis renounced his errors regarding Islam, was signed by him in November 2000.

If the Pope condemned and disciplined Dupuis for suggesting that Muslims are saved, why would he make such a blasphemous claim himself? The answer: The Pope never said this, and the closest you come to substantiating your allegation is to quote a theologian who was having a very public quarrel with the Pope at the time he made the claim.

In the interests of honesty, you should admit that the Pope has never said that Muslims are saved and acknowledge that Mr. Dupuis himself is an unreliable source.

105 posted on 04/02/2002 6:41:05 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
In the interests of honesty, you should admit that the Pope has never said that Muslims are saved and acknowledge that Mr. Dupuis himself is an unreliable source.

I appreciate your scholarship re: Mr. Dupuis, but I was refering to the Offical Dogma of the Catholic Church, by pope Paul VI in "Lumen Gentium" (1964) which states:

...the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind.

154 posted on 04/03/2002 9:26:04 PM PST by berned
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