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To: SoothingDave
How do you "believe" and not be "born again"? I thought we were saved by faith?

What does the scripture say? Believe and confess. Period. Both are required - not just one and we'll think about the other. Scripture says both must be done. When one does both, one is born again and no longer has need of coming to be born again. Thus one doesn't get born again so they can go be born again. A baby doesn't exit it's mother's body so that it can exit it's mother's body later. The physical truth is reflective of the spiritual truth. Yet you want to sell the notion of many paths and beg reason when scripture says something you don't like and beg the same reason when it seems to say something you like and doesn't. Begging reason, if there's one way to salvation and a second seems to be proffered, is it restating the first or creating a second though we know there is only one because God doesn't contradict himself. To believe you, we must believe God does contradict himself, which therefore also makes God a liar - the which blasphemy, I'll not have any part of. Thus, let God be true every man a liar - that includes you.

7,586 posted on 05/01/2002 11:47:15 AM PDT by Havoc
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To: SoothingDave
Havoc writes:

What does the scripture say? Believe and confess. Period. Both are required - not just one and we'll think about the other. Scripture says both must be done. When one does both, one is born again and no longer has need of coming to be born again. Thus one doesn't get born again so they can go be born again. A baby doesn't exit it's mother's body so that it can exit it's mother's body later. The physical truth is reflective of the spiritual truth. Yet you want to sell the notion of many paths and beg reason when scripture says something you don't like and beg the same reason when it seems to say something you like and doesn't. Begging reason, if there's one way to salvation and a second seems to be proffered, is it restating the first or creating a second though we know there is only one because God doesn't contradict himself. To believe you, we must believe God does contradict himself, which therefore also makes God a liar - the which blasphemy, I'll not have any part of. Thus, let God be true every man a liar - that includes you.

Wow, Havoc, you really do misrepresent Catholics, while shucking the parts of Scripture that do not suit you. I am truly sad to see this and you are seeming to play folly with the written word.

7,589 posted on 05/01/2002 11:52:06 AM PDT by Fury
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