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To: Havoc;IMRight;OLD REGGIE
That's hot, I just love what you do with accusation as a group. It's an artform by which you pay no attention to the truthfulness of it and at the same time use it to color another person for as much mileage from it you can get. Can't get around the argument - lie about it and distort. I can see where that'd be useful to your side. Scripture sure hasn't been.

Honestly, Havoc, do you think there's anyone here who doesn't know your opinion of any writer who does not agree with you, of any writing that is not Scripture?

Reggie asked IMRight about Augustine.

IMRight answered about Augustine.

Your interjection of "I don't give a flying fig about Augustine" is rude, if nothing else. Let the boys talk.

SD

7,409 posted on 05/01/2002 6:33:49 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Hi Dave - On a totally different topic, this bit from Andrew Sullivan jumped out at me:

WHAT AMERICAN CATHOLICS THINK: We've long known that American Catholics were more liberal than most other Americans, but the discrepancy is really quite striking. Newsweek's poll this week finds the following: 59 percent think screening out gays from the priesthood would not make much difference in curtailing abuse; 44 percent back legal same-sex marriage, compared to only about a third of the general population; 51 percent would have no problem with an openly gay priest; 73 percent favor married clergy; 65 percent favor women priests. Many more Catholics would be happy with a gay priest in a committed relationship than non-Catholics. This is the gulf the current hierarchy is struggling to bridge. No, the church is not a democracy, and shouldn't be. But when it reaches this level of cognitive dissonance between official doctrine and actual belief, you've got a real problem.

Of course, the "real problem" is that a majority of American Catholics are willingly apostitizing from the Roman Catholic Church. And numbers don't mean they're right, obviously. At one point the majority of Christians would have "polled" in favor of Arianism. But it's certainly disturbing nonetheless. I'll continue to pray for your fellow churchmembers.

7,433 posted on 05/01/2002 7:17:22 AM PDT by Wordsmith
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