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To: IMRight
Good point, but Christ never said "that man over there is me" did he? Whether we accept whether He meant it or not and whether we accept that it happens still today, He certainly did say that the bread was His body. He didn't say "is kinda like", He said "is".

Well no not technically, but he did make it clear that he is in all believers. And that all believers should be one with him and God:

Joh 17:23 I in them, and You in Me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that You have sent Me and have loved them as You have loved Me.

From what I can gather, catholics are saying that the bread actually becomes Christ at a point, and then stops being Christ at a point. The bread is a host of Christ.

Believers actually have Christ present in them, we are literally hosts of Christ.

I don't see the difference.

7,144 posted on 04/30/2002 7:26:05 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
From what I can gather, catholics are saying that the bread actually becomes Christ at a point, and then stops being Christ at a point. The bread is a host of Christ.

Fair enough.

Believers actually have Christ present in them, we are literally hosts of Christ. I don't see the difference.

Christ dwells within all believers, but you do not cease to be. If anything you and Christ are cohabitating within you.

The consecrated host ceases to be bread and become Christ in its entirety. There is nothing except Christ there. It is pure.

In this way the Presence is more profound and worthy of adoration.

SD

7,146 posted on 04/30/2002 7:42:12 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: DouglasKC
The bread is a host of Christ.

Well it is called a "host" isn't it? lol.

Seriously, it isn't an exact parallel. The bread becomes Christ's body, it doesn't just contain Christ's body. We do not "become" Christ just because He is within us.

I don't see the difference.

Well. There are actually more similarities between beliefs than I suspect any of us are willing to admit. And there is some overlap of concepts that I suspect cannot be put properly into human language. We are incorporated into Christ, we are a part/member of His body. And this is true in a "real" sense. But that doen't mean that we are a "piece" of Christ. Christ is within the believer, but He is certainly not limited to that one location, nor is He reduced in substance when a new believer receives Him for the first time, nor does He "expand" to fit the new larger "body".

It is both "true" that you become a part of Christ and "true" that you remain yourself. Understanding this unity and distinction is probably on the same level as the presence of Christ in the host.

7,150 posted on 04/30/2002 7:56:11 AM PDT by IMRight
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