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To: DouglasKC
<Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Lets look at the Greek for the word HAVE

From Greek Mood

: "In general, mood is the feature of the verb that presents the verbal action or state with reference to its actuality or potentiality. Voice indicates how the subject relates to the action or state of the verb; tense is used primarily to portray the kind of action."

Let's look at the mood sense for the word "echo", for which you gave the tense. From Blueletterbible.org:

5792 Mood - Subjunctive
The subjunctive mood is the mood of possibility and potentiality. The action described may or may not occur, depending upon circumstances. Conditional sentences of the third class ("ean" + the subjunctive) are all of this type, as well as many commands following conditional purpose clauses, such as those beginning with "hina." So if I'm reading this right, a believer MAY or MAY not have eternal life according to this statement. God won't take it away, but a believer can reject his salvation.

Jhn 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
The perfect tense in Greek corresponds to the perfect tense in English, and describes an action which is viewed as having been completed in the past, once and for all, not needing to be repeated.

Doug will you PLEASE think?

Why would the mood be SUBJECTIVE He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me,

The condition is the hearing and the believing

Unlike the other verses that were to those that already believed , this was telling the conditions that bring eternal life .....thus it is a conditional promise the CIRCUMSTANCE is the hearing and believing <<<

I have asked your about 5 times where you will be after you die until the resurrection. You do not answer but just keep moving the target. May I have an answer to that before we continue?

65,199 posted on 08/17/2003 8:10:50 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
I have asked your about 5 times where you will be after you die until the resurrection. You do not answer but just keep moving the target. May I have an answer to that before we continue?

You need to read my posts more closely. I answered that at least twice (i believe), the last time in 65196.

65,202 posted on 08/17/2003 8:24:38 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Doug.

where you will be after you die until the resurrection?

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Ecclesiastes 12

7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

65,205 posted on 08/17/2003 8:33:17 PM PDT by restornu (Always keep your words soft and sweet, just in case you have to eat them.)
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