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To: saradippity
Do you know if there were any sects of "God's Chosen" people,who at the time of Christ considered themselves to be strictly governed or guided by the Torah,and only the Torah?

The closest I can think of would probably be the Sadducees. They rejected the Pharisaic idea of an Oral Law.

I have also heard that the word Jew was not to be found in the Old or New Testament until the KJV was published.

That is inaccurate. The word yehudi, or Jew, occurs in both Zechariah and Esther, and a variation occurs in Jeremiah.

Do you know what definition and import the terms temple and synogogue have on our understanding of religion at the time Christ came? How about now?

The "temple" in 1st century usage referred only to the temple in Jerusalem. Synagogues, then and now, referred to local places of study and worship. Animal sacrifices were made only in the temple, not in the synagogue.

Reform and some Conservative congregations do use the term "temple" to refer to their houses of worship, but technically this is an incorrect usage. The local synagogue didn't and doesn't replace the temple.

I think my interest was piqued on this recently when some Catholic Church bishops came out with a draft saying the "Old Covenant" is still in effect,which seemed worth thinking about. but that led me to the question of "OK,but with who?"

Depends who you ask. Most people would say "with the Jews". But some messianic Christians would say that it is in effect as well for those who have been "grafted into" Israel.

46,046 posted on 04/02/2003 11:59:57 AM PST by malakhi (fundamentalist unitarian)
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To: malakhi
So would it be correct to say that Jesus Christ was an Israelite from the tribe of Judah,who was born in Nazareth?

Thanks for all the info.any thoughts on the Karaites?

What do you think Jesus was referring to when he spoke of the Jews,who were not Jews,who were from the "Synagogue of Satan"?. He mentions this in Revelations,chapters 2 and 3,in John's letters to the churches.(I don't know how they were referred to in the original).

Incidentally,I asked you about this before but only recently noticed that I was reading the Douay-Rheims;however,I was looking in the NAB r and it was not worded the same way.I also noted that the D-R letters to the churches all end using the word "overcome" in the last sentences,whereas the NAB uses victor or conquer. Not nearly as powerful as repeating the same word to each church,in my estimation.

With all of the confusion in the world,nations,religions,tribes,races and sexes I can't help but think that much that is happening now mirrors what was happening at the time of Christ and His warnings about who could be trusted and who were God's is important for us now.I am far less wary of the Satan,who states he is not with us than of the one who claims he is with us and who lies.

46,063 posted on 04/02/2003 2:21:12 PM PST by saradippity
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