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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
This warfare must continue until the Amalekites of the world are blotted out, until God's law-order prevails and His justice reigns

Bad news for China, Japan, Korea, India . . . Your article suggests that God is terribly inefficient in His Creation - that He makes more loosers than keepers. Strange.

5 posted on 03/29/2002 8:28:25 PM PST by Phil V.
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To: Phil V.
Your article suggests that God is terribly inefficient in His Creation

GOD is is not in inefficient humans are remember the decisions you make and they made as well are up to the individual

10 posted on 03/29/2002 8:35:08 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Phil V.
How many people do you know personally that you would want to spend eternity with? Arafat maybe? Or how about Stalin? According to Revelation the number of all peoples and tongues that are praising God in Revelation is beyond man's ability to count, doesn't sound like alot of waste to me.
11 posted on 03/29/2002 8:39:49 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Phil V.
What does Amalek have to do with China, Korea, Japan, India?

It is clearly a middle-eastern people, and one known for lack of any civility or civilization, in that a war of the kind fought in WWII (nasty enough, but not like a terrorism war) cannot be conducted, for they will fight as Jebus did against David, hiding behind the crippled and elderly, while attacking the children and the weak and elderly in the rear of the Israelite column...

It represents the Palestinians most certainly, and more generally the Arabs to the extent they lack civilization and will not fight in the manner civilized nations do...

16 posted on 03/29/2002 8:48:16 PM PST by crystalk
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To: Phil V.
....Your article suggests that God is terribly inefficient in His Creation...

God didn't create us that way, WE fell in the Garden of Eden. We are all born lost and doomed to Hell. Only through the mercy and grace of Jesus Christ are we redeemed. Consider there were only 8 saved in the flood. The Bible measures aproxamately 1800-2000 years from the Garden to the flood. How many people might have been here then? There were possibly billions of people on earth at that time and they all perished and went to Hell except for 8. It is probable that the vast majority of people will end in Hell.

19 posted on 03/29/2002 8:54:38 PM PST by chuckles
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To: Phil V.
God is God and always will be God.

THANKFULLY, God is Good all the time and all the time God is Good.

It's also a given that His ways are higher than our ways--by definition and otherwise.

I've long noted that sometimes it seems like He spends even His favorite people like water.

And what of Job's children sacrificed for an illustration?

On the other hand, the story of Job has been a life giving comfort and lesson to millions.

And what of physically or otherwise damaged children. Where was the God of Love at their gestation?

He was there in all His bottomless Love in every subatomic and even more thorough Caring, Knowing and Omnipotence. I have to believe from what I have known in my own life of God and what I have read in the lives of others--that nothing is wasted in His economy.

While this life from our perspective is often far from fair, I have found GOD EXCEEDINGLY FAIR.

I'm convinced that SOMEHOW, when all is said and done and accounts are settled, not a single bacterium on a single gnat's pooper sphincter will have ought to say against God.

God is the paragon of generosity and forgivness. God is the paragon of second and 100th chances. He is the paragon of Compassion and longsuffering Kindness.

Scholar Walter Martin used to teach that there were a rare few whom God seemed to predestine to Salvation, but none that He predestined to hell. Yet, it seems that God creates the wicked for His purposes. Nevertheless, I'm convinced, that had we God's perspective, we'd still say that He was exceedingly generous, forgiving and kind even to the wicked.

The fact remains that we have a huge and decisive amount of free-will. Not absolute free-will. The law of gravity has power and authority over all of us regardless of what we want. But we live far from absolute predestination as well.

Certainly we can choose whether we will follow God to the best of our ability or sink passively or otherwise into the muck of following the fallen angel of light bent on spiting God for kicking him out of heaven--by plaguing and destroying as many of God's favorite creatures as possible.

PERHAPS we ought to remember God's goal. I am convinced that we can't judge a thing wisely or logically unless we know:

1) WHAT IS THE GOAL concerned?
2) WHAT IS THE CRITERIA, STANDARD that signals when the goal has been reached?
3) WHAT IS THE CONTEXT?

God's stated goal is to raise up a large group of intelligent, spiritually sensitive and powerful children who have demonstrated tenacity in choosing to follow Him and live by a law and currency of sacrificial Love. . . . for the ultimate role of ruling and reigning through endless eternities with Jesus The Messiah. . . evidently across endless galaxies, dimensions etc.

Given that this is boot-camp/initial training and screening for that ultimate goal. . . . I can't think of a better way of doing it--can you?

23 posted on 03/29/2002 9:13:56 PM PST by Quix
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To: Phil V.
Are you going to tell God what to do and what not to do?! If someone into pottery makes a vase, can the vase tell the maker "I don't want to be used to hold pencils, or vinegar, or spare change, I WANT to be used for freshly cut flowers, or fine wine!" Understand now?!
31 posted on 03/30/2002 7:00:38 AM PST by timestax
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To: Phil V.
If the Creator God has an "apple of his eye",= the descendents of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, then who are we or you to get upset or jealous?! It's reality, come to grips with it. King David is called in the bible "a man after God's own heart," uh oh, looks like God likeed him a little more then others, time to get jealous. God has favorites. If you read about the three resurections in Revelation (KJV) you will understand that all will have a chance to be in the coming Kingdom here on the Earth in the future. Where it's written Jesus will rule with a rod of iron, and people will learn war no more!
32 posted on 03/30/2002 7:17:11 AM PST by timestax
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