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To: LarryLied
I think that the cross is an unfortunate symbol, but not for the reasons these people allege. Too bad that violent death has to occur, I guess they would outlaw it if they could, eh?

The cross is, to me, a symbol of the defeat of the mortal Christ. It is about His DEATH, when in fact the entire purpose of His atoning sacrifice was not DEATH, but LIFE EVERLASTING.

Therefore, the symbol of Christianity is and ought to be the resurrected Christ Himself.

If He had been hung, people would wear nooses about their necks. Had He been beheaded, little axes. That's pointless. Focusing on His death is pointless.

248 posted on 03/26/2002 1:54:41 PM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
Post # 240 Chuck Swindoll a non-LDS has an excellent talk on the how Our Lord died
and said about the same thing you said about the cross and more.

His talks on the trials are very informative.
He dose good work on gathering historical facts.

These are talks which can be hear on real play!

250 posted on 03/26/2002 2:05:19 PM PST by restornu
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To: Illbay
The more I learn about Mormonism, the more I see how much work has to be done to show Mormons the truth of the falsenss of the Mormon religeon. The "defeat" of the mortal Christ? What??
254 posted on 03/26/2002 2:39:47 PM PST by Wrigley
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To: Jean Chauvin
Look at this.
255 posted on 03/26/2002 2:44:35 PM PST by Wrigley
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To: Illbay
The cross is, to me, a symbol of the defeat of the mortal Christ. It is about His DEATH, when in fact the entire purpose of His atoning sacrifice was not DEATH, but LIFE EVERLASTING.

Well, I'm sure that this is exactly what Satan and his servants must have thought. Your statement is so wierd in so many ways.

As for me, I bear the mark of Christ with pride for when I looked on the Cross, the only defeat I saw was my sin being crushed under the eternal wrath of Almighty God. I see a great and awesome victory that brought me to my knees in fear and wonder.

261 posted on 03/26/2002 5:14:04 PM PST by CCWoody
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To: Illbay;Wrigley;CCWoody
The cross is, to me, a symbol of the defeat of the mortal Christ.

That sounds interesting but is not scripitual

Jhn 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.
This commandment have I received of my Father.

Jesus was obedient to His death on the cross..

266 posted on 03/26/2002 6:10:43 PM PST by RnMomof7
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