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To: Heartlander
Evolutionists believe in a creator - the creator being nature. It can be likened to a creationists views, in fact we are seeing the pages of thier bible in text books now.

This point of view is about as un-informed as it is possible to be about evolution -- and about science in general. There's no way to clear up Heartlander's confusion quickly, if at all, but for the lurkers, in a nutshell, the response is this:

Science isn't just another cult. It's the opposite of a cult. It's based on observation and reason.

1,439 posted on 03/22/2002 1:36:40 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
Science isn't just another cult. It's the opposite of a cult. It's based on observation and reason.

You use the words science--evolution--reason--observation too loosely--subjectively?

Do you think science evolves?

I asked you 2 mos ago if science existed prior to darwin...twice---never got an answer!

1,444 posted on 03/22/2002 1:56:24 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: PatrickHenry
Sorry, had to step out for a while. Friday night is family night here.
Anyway -

Science isn't just another cult. It's the opposite of a cult. It's based on observation and reason.

I never said science was a cult and I do in fact embrace science. I actually have no problem with evolution, (although I see many faults) my problem is evolution without Intelligent Design. Christianity and many religions can coexist with the evolution theory but atheism cannot. Whether atheism is a religion or not is debatable – IMHO it is… And even beyond that, as any religion, it has an agenda.

Intelligent Design is applied to science in many different areas but is not applied to biology. When we look at the big picture here from an atheist standpoint:

Cosmology: The Big Bang = it just happened
Biology: Life = it beat the odds and just happened as a result of nature
Philosophy: Intelligence = it came to us as a result of nature

Sir, if you or anyone wants to believe this, it is there right. I, sir, have the right to believe otherwise. This great country was founded on God and I will fight to keep it so (just as an atheist will fight to remove Him) Give me liberty or give me death. What say you PatrickHenry? (or is Patrick Henry now a member of the ACLU – funny how they never fight to help keep guns)

I ask you this sir, did the ‘concept’ of liberty come from nature? Did our intelligence come from nature?

1,497 posted on 03/22/2002 6:54:40 PM PST by Heartlander
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