Posted on 03/13/2002 4:47:26 AM PST by JediGirl
You're glossing over a lot in your reading of this thread. That much is clear.
Note that on that old thread linked in 308 I did not merely sneer at medved's inadequate response, but came back to it and dissected it in detail. This is exactly the scrutiny he's claiming his posts have never never never been given. They get it every time. Why on earth would they? How much real attention do you give to an advertising flyer in your mailbox if it's the same thing every other day for the last three weeks? But periodically, everybody gives him a look-over.
Anyone who takes any trouble knocks him out of the park. You don't have to be a genius. You just have to be sane.
Intended to say they don't get it every time but my slow modem connection ate one of the words or maybe it was my cat.
Evolutionary theory faces two insurmountable problems.
1) If species evolved by micromutation then the fossil record would be full of transitional forms. There would be nothing else. In fact, there are no examples of fossil forms that are not fully functional, integrated organisms. Species always appear fully formed in the fossil record and disappear the same way.
2) The only other materialistic explanation for the development of new species is punctuated equilibria, which requires spectacular, massive, beneficial mutations simultaneously in two creatures, one male and one female. Both creatures must then find each other and mate. This ludicrous impossibility must happen many times within a "species" and then innumerable times in history to create all existing species. The theory is simply laughable.
The definition of science that I see---the scythe...cutting-separating Truth from fiction(esoteric-pecular).
There is a pearl--in the shell--in the mud...not the costume jewelry--evolution!
A typical example of Reep dissecting one of my posts in detail may be seen here starting around post 203. It begins with this same sort of bellicose claim to have destroyed my case a year earlier, and ends up with Reep's position shattered, his source exposed as a total ignoramus, and Reep inviting lurkers to view a talk.origins smear sheet describing me as a kook or something and crying "Well, I may be full of $#!T, but it doesn't matter cause the other guy's an A$$#OLE!!"
You thoght I would have forgotten about that after a couple of days, Reep?
Unless one adheres to the "punctuated evolution" variation, I would ask, "Where are today's 'transitionals?'"
I look around and I don't see the continuum of species variations existent. You would expect this in a system that has been "maturing" for billions of years. Instead, I see species reproducing after their own kind. The genetically flawed are compost.
Punctuated evolution is just another in a series of twists that try to explain away the obvious and maintain a belief in a fundamentally flawed theory.
Yepp, because as the law of fossilization says: Every population should leave a well preserved fossil every 126 years.
Oh no, wait! There isn't such a law.
Phillip E. Johnson ----------------------------------- Jefferson E. Peyser Professor of Law School of Law University of California, Berkeley
1) If species evolved by micromutation then the fossil record would be full of transitional forms. There would be nothing else. In fact, there are no examples of fossil forms that are not fully functional, integrated organisms. Species always appear fully formed in the fossil record and disappear the same way.This page is down just now, but give it a look when it comes up. It has nice examples of smooth change in the fossil record.
Most of the best examples are from deep sea sediments. Why? Some of those surfaces have not suffered a single period of erosion in millions of years.
By comparison, the sharp and skinny layers of sediment that line the road cuts in the mountains where I live represent periods of deposition. In between are periods of no deposition, and often erosion. So the scenario is that a lot of sediment is laid down. The ground shifts and some is washed off. The ground shifts again (tectonic forces on the march) and deposition resumes. But now it's a different environment containing different species.
Are you familiar with what punctuated equilibrium itself says, and not what Duane Gish and/or medved say about it? The essence is that big changes happen not only in a time, but in a place, and radiate out from there. Dig in the right place and you will find those elusive transitionals. Until then, you see only a "sudden replacement."
We have many instances of this from the fossil record now. We know that it's basically the model that applies. Just for instance, we had no fossil record of really early man until we looked in East Africa. That's where it happened. We had no fossil record of really early whales until we looked in the Pamir/Himalayan Tethys Sea sediments. That's where it happened.
What you see from creationists about punk-eek is basically lawyering based upon strawman mischaracterizations. The irony is that you know they read Stephen J. Gould. They've mined every argument he ever had with scientists of a more gradualist bent for snippets to "prove" there are no transitionals.
Evolution is brainwashing--indoctrination...an empty shell game---marked cards--stacked decks--tricks/fraud!
All hard--honest thinking--learning is forbidden!
Sorta of a head on collision---brain damage!
I told you that I'd answered your same exact post a year ago. I had.
I never at either time claimed that I was addressing your albedo argument, which is only one linchpin of medvedian Velikovskianism. Your standard spam post puts the albedo argument in exactly that context, the support for planetary ping-pong.
That's what I attacked as false and ridiculous. That's what I said I attacked.
Your claim to understand that I was advertising a destruction of your albedo argument looks from here like a distraction. I was calling you on your spamming, as I did again in 308 of this thread after your 303.
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