Common Creationist Arguments - Pseudoscience

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[PatrickHenry]

I remember that post!! One of the funniest FR moments in recent history.

To me, the funniest thing was that I made the original post, thinking it just another of my silly jokes, then I quit for the evening. When I logged on the next day, the whole joint was going insane! After I explained it (to the thousands who were all worked up on that "conspiracy" thread), AAAPatriot just wouldn't give it up. Eventually he ended up posting only to himself. And I have had a small moment of fame in FR history.

[PatrickHenry]

why don't you hit the abuse button and ask the moderator if someone else is posting as No-Kin?

My guess is that the moderators wouldn't get involved unless No-Kin were a serious disruptor. Or if he were insulting people, posting spam, racism, etc. Who has a genuine complaint against the guy? We've got a half-dozen "real" posters who have been abusive from time to time, but No-Kin ain't one of them.

[Lurking Libertarian]

I'm not suggesting that No-Kin is a disruptor; he's not. I was responding to someone's (I've lost track) expressed fear that someone else (ditto) was impersonating NKTM.

[longshadow]

I'll be back as Ingrid Bergmann in Casablanca.

And I'll be Louie, Prefect of Police!

Great lines fron the movie:
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Bergmann: "We'll always have Paris."

Bogie: "Ah, Paris. I remember. You wore blue. The Germans wore grey."

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Prefect of Police: "Tell us your nationality."

Bogie: "I'm a drunkard."

Prefect: "That makes you a citizen of the world!"

Major Strasser: "So what brought you to Casablanca?"

Bogie: "I came for the waters."

Prefect: "Everyone knows there are no "waters" in Casablanca......"

Bogie: "So, I was misinformed."

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Prefect, to his Gendarmes: "Major Strasser has been shot! Round up the usual suspects!"

[PatrickHenry]

And I'll be Louie, Prefect of Police!

And I'll be Sam, the piano player.

Yo' mus' remember this,
A kiss is jus' a kiss,
A sigh is jus' a sigh;
The fundamental things apply,
As time goes by ...

That last line has been the title of at least three SF stories that I can recall.

[AndrewC]

My guess is that the moderators wouldn't get involved unless No-Kin were a serious disruptor.

So you don't think abuse of trust is serious?

[gore3000]

"(But it's [the platypus] been evolving as long as we have.)

Since it has been evolving all this time, then it must have had ancestors during that long evolution. Since you say that every feature gradually evolves from something else, then the features of the platypus must have come from another. So what species is the ancestor of the platypus - and I mean species not nonsense like 'the vertebrate family'. I mean what specific species it came from.

From what specific species did the following traits descend:
1. the mammary glands.
2. the egg laying.
3. your 3 earbones.
4. the poison spur.
5. the duck like bill.
6. the webbed feet.
7. the toothless mouth.
8. the electro-sensor in the bill.
9. the fur.
10. the cloaca.
11. the ability to vocalize and make different sounds.

Hope I do not have to wait for 150 years for an answer!

[VadeRetro]

Oh! "Not now," huh? I see. And what exactly do you mean by that?

[Clacking of ball bearings]

[longshadow]

Speaking of Bogart, what was that other movie he was in... you know the one where he uses pure Geometric logic to prove that somebody was stealing the strawberries on his ship?

[VadeRetro]

Well, I'd say Obduron, but Obbie had teeth. Of course, in your universe, O. insignis was only teeth and O. dickensoni was only a bit of jawbone.

Does it make you wonder how they lived?

[VadeRetro]

The shtrawberries . . . [Clack! Clack]

That's where I showed them with geometric logic . . .

[longshadow]

...or did you meet up with the homeless street people up on Capitol Hill? (YIKES!)

[AndrewC]

Oh! "Not now," huh? I see. And what exactly do you mean by that?

[Clacking of ball bearings]

I know this was not a post to me, but I wish to commend you for your portrayal of Capt Queeg. It comes from the practiced art I mentioned and is apparently true to form for you so is rather representative versus misrepresentative.

[VadeRetro]

The Caine Mutiny, another classic. Somebody here tonight is doing a decent imitation of that performance.

[gore3000]

Forgot to mention that we could move the invention of mammaries back to some common ancestor of T. rex and the synapsids, then figure out some loopy reason no other descendants have the milk glands. (Nah!)

THANKS VERY MUCH VADE FOR PROVING MY POINT BETTER THAN I EVER COULD -

EVOLUTION IS A JOKE.

[longshadow]

The Caine Mutiny, another classic. Somebody here tonight is doing a decent imitation of that performance.

Oscar material, by my reckoning.

[VadeRetro]

It comes from the practiced art I mentioned and is apparently true to form for you so is rather representative versus misrepresentative.

To the annoying tune of "Girl Watcher:"

I'm a shape-shifter!
I'm a shape-shifter!
Feudin' with myself!

I'm a shape-shifter!
No heavy lifter!
Such a funny elf!

[JediGirl]

You caught me. I'm really JediGirl, too.

i guess that would explain the sudden surge of testosterone i've experienced in the past few days, no?

[VadeRetro]

Oh, you've got it!? Give it back! I'm 52 and can't spare any!

[gore3000]

The framework predicts that mammals, and only mammals -- the warm-blooded critters with three ear bones, differentiated dentiture, a couple of special holes in their heads, who descended from mammal-like reptiles -- will have mammary glands.

Garbage. The framework was established by looking at actual creatures, not from a philosophical viewpoint, not from a theoretical viewpoint but from an observational viewpoint. The framework is just a shortcut embodying what is already known. The framework cannot expand our knowldedge, all it can do is blind us to the possibility of new unique finds. The only way we can expand our knowledge of different species is by observation, not by theory.

Paleontology closes our eyes, it does not open them. It does not rely on observation, but instead it makes up stories from a pre-defined procrustean bed that of course verifies its pre-conceived notions and pre-defined opinions. It is therefore not science because it assumes instead of observes. Because it replaces facts with theories. Because it replaces observation with circular reasoning.