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Common Creationist Arguments - Pseudoscience
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Posted on 03/13/2002 4:47:26 AM PST by JediGirl

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To: medved
In real life, most of the material got vaporized and/or blasted into space.

Sounds pretty hot. Why was nothing adjacent melted?

1,461 posted on 03/22/2002 4:09:50 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: medved
In real life, most of the material got vaporized and/or blasted into space.

A blast like that and there's no debris field to either side? And there's no glass?

The Trinity test vaporized some stuff too, but it left a layer of glass. The stuff next to the stuff that vaporized melted. And Trinity was a tower burst if not an air burst. About a 100-foot tower IIRC. You're talking about something that dug the Grand Canyon.

1,462 posted on 03/22/2002 4:13:20 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Fools! The Grand Canyon was formed when one of Apollo's chariot horses became lame one day and had to stop pulling the sun across the sky. Apollo unhitched him and continued on with only one horse -- which gave rise to the ancient expression "having a slow day." Anyway, the lame horse had to hoof it home, and naturally his equine schlong was dragging by the time he got to North America, and ... well, the Grand Canyon is the result. It's all documented in the Lost Archives of Olympus.
1,463 posted on 03/22/2002 4:18:10 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: medved;
Not if the electrical discharge in question is the wrong kind (anode vs cathode scarring).

I'm not an electrical engineer (maybe some kind-hearted soul out there will help), but in the event you are describing the electrical discharge would have to travel from the space body to the Colorado Plateau to cause surrounding terrain to vaporize. Since electricity by convention travels from positive to negative, this necessarily means the earth would act as the cathode...not the other way around.

1,464 posted on 03/22/2002 4:19:29 PM PST by Scully
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To: PatrickHenry
Horsepuckey!
1,465 posted on 03/22/2002 4:19:31 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
The Trinity test vaporized some stuff too, but it left a layer of glass

I was given a small peice of Trinitite a couple of years ago. The stuff is very green, and definitely glassy.

1,466 posted on 03/22/2002 4:22:07 PM PST by Scully
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To: Scully
Was it still a little "hot?"
1,467 posted on 03/22/2002 4:23:27 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry
It's all documented in the Lost Archives of Olympus.

What has caused us to be graced with this visit from Olympus?

1,468 posted on 03/22/2002 4:31:23 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: f.Christian
Ill take that bait Mr. Henry....
Do you think science evolves?
Of course it does...it evolves each time a theory is proven or disproven. I have listed many examples of this before, and will gladly list them again, if you think you are capable of understanding simple english,unadorned by repeated use of hyphens and idiotic rhetoric.
Science used to say that the earth was flat and was the center of the universe. Well, I think that those theories have been proven wrong a very long time ago. That is science evolving plain and simple.
I asked you 2 mos ago if science existed prior to darwin...twice---never got an answer!
That has got to be the stupidest, most inane question I have ever seen you ask, and that is saying alot! Did water not seek the lowest level before Darwin? Did it not rain or snow before Darwin? Were there no inventions, no buildings, no fire before Darwin? All of those are science.
Now you had better get back to the home before they send the guys in the white coats to look for you again.
And please...for all of our sakes, please go back on the meds.
Oldcats
1,469 posted on 03/22/2002 4:41:23 PM PST by oldcats
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To: Equality 7-2521
I'll take the country created by creationists over 200 years ago to the semi-socialist chaos produced by the Darwinists in America, and the nightmares produced by the Darwinists in Communism and Fascism. Marx originally planned to dedicate Das Kapital to Darwin, but Darwin protested that it would hurt his popularity. But they've gone together for well over a hundred years and over 100 million murders like two peas in a pod.

"...endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights..."

1,470 posted on 03/22/2002 4:42:03 PM PST by razorbak
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To: Heartlander
If everything was created by nature without Intelligent Design – ... – Nothing man creates has Intelligent Design because it is natural.

Your mistake is to assume disjointness between "natural causes" and "intelligent causes." You are intelligent but also natural.

1,471 posted on 03/22/2002 4:44:51 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: razorbak
Are you insinuating that all, or even most evolutionists are Communists and Facists? Oh please say it again! Double dog dare you...

Marx originally planned to dedicate Das Kapital to Darwin, but Darwin protested that it would hurt his popularity.
I suppose you have credible documentation to back this up?
Oldcats
1,472 posted on 03/22/2002 4:49:43 PM PST by oldcats
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To: razorbak
Darwinists in Communism

Don't know about all leftists, but Stalin embraced Lysenkoism, a form of Lamarckism, not Darwinism.

In fact, Darwin's discovery was that the environment provides for as rigorous selection of preferred traits as an animal breeder does. In other words, Nature provides an 'invisible hand', rather like that of classical laissez-faire.

1,473 posted on 03/22/2002 4:49:52 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: AndrewC
Any time I see a computer program I infer that a mind created it.

But what about genetic programs? They are created by random crossings culled by a selection function. I don't know if you've seen any cases but they are simply a mess - effective but totally unreadable.

1,474 posted on 03/22/2002 4:52:11 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: Junior
""Number one, the micro- macro- thingy is a creationist creation; it does not appear in any of the books on evolution I have, and I'd never run across it before beginning to debate creationists on these threads. Junior in post#1097

Like any good author, I cater to the masses -- that doesn't mean I agree with everything I write. " Junior in post#1233

The above was in my statement that you had plenty of articles on macro-evolution on both your list-o-links and your "Ultimate Resource". Methinks you are being quite dishonest on the subject of macro-evolution. You know quite well what it is about. While your statements may have "deniability" like any "deniable" statement, they were completely dishonest.

BTW - a librarian is not an author. To the best of my knowledge, none of the articles in those lists were written by you.

1,475 posted on 03/22/2002 4:53:10 PM PST by gore3000
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To: Junior
How do you define macroevolution?

The development of a sexually reproducing biological organism in such a way that branches traceable to a common ancestor are no longer able to fertilize each others seed while remaining fertile.

1,476 posted on 03/22/2002 5:13:00 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: oldcats
As for evolution theory being proven, I guess that all depends on the individual.

No, it has nothing to do with the individual if it's a scientific theory. It has to do with the proof. If you're correct about the proof being there it just has not been presented to me effectively.

If we are talking science one should not be expected to wait for a revelation.

1,477 posted on 03/22/2002 5:16:45 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: VadeRetro; Scully
I too have a small piece of trinitite. It is very slightly radioactive. The smoke detector in my home registers far hotter on my scintillator than the trinitite.
1,478 posted on 03/22/2002 5:19:48 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: edsheppa
But what about genetic programs?

The program(s) is(are) still being "decoded" so I must rely on those who are working on it.

A 21st Century View of evolution

Molecular genetics has amply confirmed McClintock’s discovery that living organisms actively reorganize their genomes (5). It has also supported her view that the genome can "sense danger" and respond accordingly (56). The recognition of the fundamentally biological nature of genetic change and of cellular potentials for information processing frees our thinking about evolution. In particular, our conceptual formulations are no longer dependent on the operation of stochastic processes. Thus, we can now envision a role for computational inputs and adaptive feedbacks into the evolution of life as a complex system. Indeed, it is possible that we will eventually see such information-processing capabilities as essential to life itself.

1,479 posted on 03/22/2002 5:23:46 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: js1138
there are those of us who have come to doubt macro-evolution for non-religous reasons. (original)

I am extremely interested in what a non-religious alternative to evolution could be. If there is a non-religious entity creating living systems or guiding their evolution, how did it/they come into existence?

What I said was that I have come to doubt macro-evolution for non-religous reasons -- namely that my faith is not dependent on accepting a literal interpretation of Genesis. Certain parts of the Gospels, yes. But not Genesis.

I believed in God when I accepted evolution without question. I believe in God, now. If I ever again become convinced that evolution is how man came to exists I will continue to believe in God.

The only evidence for evolution which seems to be presented is either micro-evolutionary changes in particular species (which I accept as occurring but not as proof of macro-evolution) and the fossil record which isn't proof of evolution.

1,480 posted on 03/22/2002 5:25:36 PM PST by Tribune7
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