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Common Creationist Arguments - Pseudoscience
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Posted on 03/13/2002 4:47:26 AM PST by JediGirl

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To: medved
Interesting that "First Law of Computing: Garbage in = garbage out" appears on the first page ...

But, anyway. The Mariner Valley on Mars simply shows the effects of water erosion. There is lots of evidence for water erosion on Mars.

Besides, the Belgians never mentioned finding any fulgarites among the gumme plantations in the area [1].

[1] This is an obscure reference to a defunct RPG known as Space 1889. It's one of the first Victorian Science Fiction Games to hit the market and it's a real hoot.

1,321 posted on 03/22/2002 8:55:51 AM PST by Junior
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To: Junior
Enjoy. You win.

I did not realize this was some sort of contest. I assert that evolution is not owned by Darwin. That random mutation does not appear to be random and that natural selection may not be external to the organism. These things can only have a chance at being true only if evolution exists outside of the Darwinian myopia which you and js1138 seem to have. Demonstrated by these statements

If evolution does not exist as a process,
Otherwise, you'd be back to evolution

1,322 posted on 03/22/2002 8:56:59 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: Heartlander
Why would nature need intelligence? Ants are not intelligent, but they create rather complicated architectural structures. But even closer to the point, let's assume there is a God (I believe there is, but my beliefs are not relevant to this discussion) and He is intelligent. His intelligence must have arisen naturally as there was no uber-God who created Him. Because His intelligence arose naturally, would you assume nature to be intelligent? If nature is intelligent, then it becomes the uber-God who gave rise to God's intelligence.

Besides, as I pointed out, intelligence is a product of physical processes; those physical processes are natural so intelligence must be natural.

1,323 posted on 03/22/2002 9:00:30 AM PST by Junior
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To: medved
I doubt that a "piltdown_woman" would comprehend it. There isn't anything else like the Grand Canyon on Earth, but there is on Mars.

Really? An "electrical arc crater"??? What an interesting idea, and here I thought you came up with that hypothesis yourself.

Sorry to burst your self-imposed bubble of disinformation, but there is evidence that liquid water once flowed across the surface of Mars, and that Valles Marineris was probably cut by water...just like the Grand Canyon.

But please, continue to champion the oddball hypotheses. Your arguments are at the very least diverting.

1,324 posted on 03/22/2002 9:00:43 AM PST by Aracelis
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To: Junior
You don't find fractal topography like that on rivers and you don't find 5000-kilometer rivers on Mars, Earth, or anywhere else that I know of.

How would a 5000-kilometer river work? Where would it flow from? Where would it flow to? How would you get a constant downward flow of water for 5000 kilometers, or would the water flow downhill in some places and uphill in others?

1,325 posted on 03/22/2002 9:09:45 AM PST by medved
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To: medved
There isn't anything else like the Grand Canyon on Earth,...

There's the Barranca del Cobre. It's not like the Grand Canyon exactly; it's bigger and deeper and prettier.

Not to mention the Gorges du Verdon (a bit smaller.)

1,326 posted on 03/22/2002 9:15:52 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: AndrewC
Lev: A fitness function is a mapping from the set of gene combinations to the set of fitness values. Are you saying this mapping does not exist?

Absolutely, if the values do not exist.

Why do you think they don't exist? A particular combination of genes produces an organism which is more or less fit than some other combination. When we are talking about the degree of fitness we are talking about the value of fitness function.

1,327 posted on 03/22/2002 9:19:40 AM PST by Lev
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To: Condorman
Did I miss anything?

No. You've understood far more than most lurkers, or participants. However, you say: deliberate misunderstanding is a poor debating strategy, and this isn't quite true. In a short debate, it's an excellent tactic, very similar to stonewalling. In an untimed dialogue, it does become a transparent device, and loses its effectiveness. It can, however, wear down all but the most determined opponents.

1,328 posted on 03/22/2002 9:20:44 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: Junior
Sir, I humbly stand down. I was not aware of your belief in God and the questions that I posed were for those who reject intelligent design. I apologize.
1,329 posted on 03/22/2002 9:26:39 AM PST by Heartlander
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To: AndrewC
Lev: Of course. But you will live longer with healthier food. Do you disagree?

Tell that to accident victims.

You are kidding, right? Are you saying that the probability of an accident increases when you eat healthier food????

1,330 posted on 03/22/2002 9:27:30 AM PST by Lev
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To: Condorman
Did You miss---fossil fuels don't exist...just like evolution---science doesn't evolve---tall tales do evolve!

Grand canyons on mars?

I could have predicted that one!

God created the appearance of evolution just give the rumnots something to get high--off on!

I've seen monkeys masturbating at the zoo!

1,331 posted on 03/22/2002 9:37:01 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Seems like I left out:

Hell's Canyon
Cotahuasi (11000ft deep)
Yarlung Zangbo
Colca
Monterey Canyon (4000m deep)

1,332 posted on 03/22/2002 9:38:59 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Lev
Why do you think they don't exist?

As a mathematical entity they don't exist until they are produced. Odd numbers exist, even numbers exist, fitness values don't.

1,333 posted on 03/22/2002 9:40:27 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: f.Christian
I've seen monkeys masturbating at the zoo!

I have heard the mermaids calling, each to each. I do not think they call to you.

1,334 posted on 03/22/2002 9:42:43 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian
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To: Lev
You are kidding, right? Are you saying that the probability of an accident increases when you eat healthier food????

No. No.

There is a correlation between certain eating habits and longevity. There is no definite "will happen" in that correlation. There is a definite "will happen" when one does not eat.

1,335 posted on 03/22/2002 9:44:41 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: f.Christian
Neat! Let me know how that works out for you...
1,336 posted on 03/22/2002 9:47:34 AM PST by Condorman
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To: medved
... you don't find 5000-kilometer rivers on Mars, Earth, or anywhere else that I know of.

Well, the Nile, the Yangtze, and the Amazon are all longer than 6000 kilometers. The Rio Bravo del Norte (outside my back door) is over 3000 kilometers long.

1,337 posted on 03/22/2002 9:49:28 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: VadeRetro
What is the correct size of a gene? Are you sure there's no slop factor in coding for a protein? What if there's more than one way to get it right? What if there's more than one "right" protein?

You are right but the real problem with "what are the chances of getting XYZ right" is that it's the same type of question as "what are the chances of getting the right size legs to be able to stand on the ground" (Physicist's point?)

1,338 posted on 03/22/2002 9:52:58 AM PST by Lev
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To: f.Christian
I've seen monkeys masturbating at the zoo!

OK, but don't get caught with the pics on your PC.

1,339 posted on 03/22/2002 9:54:27 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry

I agree that while it does tend to wear on the participants, for (some of) the lurkers following the discussion, especially those of us (i.e., me) who find it relatively easy to identify and click on underlined words, it damn-near completely invalidates that particular poster's credibility.

Or perhaps I err in assuming that those particular individual posters keep lurkers in mind...

1,340 posted on 03/22/2002 9:55:26 AM PST by Condorman
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