[ArGee]

The problem is that you've never demonstrated that heaven or "that place" even exist. You must first establish the existance of one or both before any intelligent conversation about the nature of such places can begin.

The One who has been to both has told us they both exist. What more do you need?

Shalom.

[LuvItOrLeaveIt]

The One who has been to both has told us they both exist. What more do you need?

Baloney! Trot out the one and let it speak for itself. Nobody ever went to heaven and/or hell and told me about it. All I have are second, third, and fourth hand accounts, inadmissable evidence in any court.