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To: Celtjew Libertarian
Of course one cannot go to heaven without God. The question is how does one make God want to be your savior.

It is my opinion that you can't make G-d do anything at all. He doesn't need you. You will add nothing to Heaven that He can not provide without you. If it weren't for His love for you, you would have started lost and remained lost.

Are you aware of what the Rabbis say about why G-d chose Israel?

Shalom.

1,079 posted on 01/07/2002 5:49:54 AM PST by ArGee
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To: ArGee
It is my opinion that you can't make G-d do anything at all.

Except that, by your standard, faith in Jesus creates a change between God being willing and unwilling to grant you a place in heaven.

He doesn't need you. You will add nothing to Heaven that He can not provide without you.

I seriously wonder at that. That comes down to the question of why God would create a universe, complete with intelligent, God-like creatures in it. Obviously, we have something He desires, otherwise, he wouldn't have bothered.

Are you aware of what the Rabbis say about why G-d chose Israel?

God went to the Egyptians and said, "I have a Commandment for you?"

The Egyptians said, "What is it?"

"You shall have no other God before me."

"What? Are you kidding?" said the Egyptians. "We have our whole economy based on the gods. Isis, Horus, Osiris, Ra, Anubis -- do you know how many tomb-decorators would be out of work, if we had only one god above all?"

So God went to the Babylonians and said, "I have a Commandment for you."

"What is it?"

"How about, 'Thou Shalt not commit adultery'?"

"You have got to be joke," said the Babylonians. "This is a whole civilization that runs on ceremonial orgies. The gangbang of the new moon, the orgy of the full. And the king's birthday... You should see the King's birthday orgies."

So God went to the Hebrews and said, "I have a Commandment for you."

"How much does it cost?"

"Cost? It's free."

"Oh, good. In that case, we'll take ten."

1,088 posted on 01/07/2002 6:12:16 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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