[LuvItOrLeaveIt]

The ultimate contradiction of living by the scientific method only. How can you logically prove that anything non-verifiable exists within a system that requires verification?

I've never asked for proof. All I have asked for is independently verifiable evidence to support assertions. There is no such thing as absolute proof.

You can present independently verifiable evidence to support the existance of the universe.

[Celtjew Libertarian]

The point remains that you're asking for verifiable evidence of a potentially unverifiable phenomenon. The argument has been made that something could exist that is not subject to verifiability.

(OTOH -- as I mentioned somewhere down the pike, there are writers, such as Paul Davies, who do present such evidence. As I've learned from experience, I have the background to understand them, but not argue them clearly. I refer you to such literature.)