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Open Letter to the Bishop of Charlotte: "Bishop Martin, it is men like you who strongly imply that the Protestants had it right."
Rorate Caeli ^ | November 12, 2025 | A Convert in the Diocese of Charlotte

Posted on 11/12/2025 9:22:43 AM PST by ebb tide

Open Letter to the Bishop of Charlotte: "Bishop Martin, it is men like you who strongly imply that the Protestants had it right."

Sent to us for publication, by a local parishioner:



Bishop Martin,


As a member of the Diocese of Charlotte, I have been amazed at the transformation of the character of our Diocese over the last year.  What once felt vibrant and full of life now feels cowed, disjointed, and fearful.  Entire congregations of faithful Catholics feel like they are losing their home, and they rightfully feel marginalized and ghettoized—reading the remarks you’ve made against the traditions of the faith, particularly behind closed doors where you’re unconcerned with public image, makes your disgust for the traditional evident and would make anyone feel as though they are intentionally being pushed aside for a more preferred populace to replace them.


In your letter “Go In Peace, Glorifying The Lord By Your Life” [sic], you stated things like: “I find it disturbing that so many pastors and celebrants are inclined to force an unknown language [Latin] on their congregation,” “So many of our faithful simply wake up away when they don’t understand the language,” “I cannot comprehend why a vocal minority of the faithful who themselves admit to not understanding Latin would advocate a revival of the Latin language within our diocese, rendering the liturgy unintelligible for all but a few of our people,” “All these parts are rendered less engaging by the use of Latin,” “the first [unacceptable tendency] is a rejection of the Novus Order Missae,” “Second, pastoral leaders who use Latin in the liturgy are creating within their own communities a divide between the haves and have nots,” “This fosters a clericalism that is unacceptable,” “To instruct the faithful that kneeling is more reverent than standing is simply absurd,” “This reminds me of what my Novice Master taught us years ago: ‘Don’t try to be holier than Holy Mother Church’,” “overly ornate vestments that put more focus on the ministers than the Eucharist,” “Latin responses and Mass parts are not to be utilized in parish churches during regular celebrations since they hinder people’s participation.  Retaining the use of Masses celebrated in Latin is not opportune in our present reality since the faithful are not accustomed to it.  Even in places where they have become used to it by more recent practice, this becomes problematic for visitors and/or new parishioners or those coming to the faith for the first time.”


There has been plenty of ink spilled about the contents of this letter from a sacramental, theological, or canonical standpoint, and I do not need to rehash those points made by people more educated than myself.  I want to focus on the character of the letter, because you make it quite obvious by your choice of phrasing what you think of people who prefer tradition: you call us disturbing, you accuse us of driving people away, you call us uneducated and vocally opinionated, you accuse us of disobedience to the Church, you accuse us of being divisive, you call our practices unacceptable on multiple occasions, and that our piety is absurd, you accuse us of trying to be “holier than Mother Church” and imply strongly that we have a false piety, and label us a stumbling block for visitors and converts.


I am an adult convert who came to the Catholic faith after being raised and spending years searching for truth in Protestant denominations.  As someone who found his way into the faith, one of the converts whom you insist is pushed away by traditional behavior, the use of Latin, and the attitudes of people who prefer traditional worship, perhaps you’ll find my conversion experience and perspectives helpful.


When I was first brought to a Mass, it was a Mass in the Ordinary Form in the Diocese of Charlotte.  The parish I attended was a well appointed parish, with art, statues, altar rails, the whole nine yards—it reminded me of something you would see in a movie depicting a church in Europe.  I was frankly stunned, I had spent most of my life in charismatic leaning churches with rock and roll praise and worship, colored lights, and projectors.  I had been to Baptist churches and Presbyterian churches, and I had seen the “liturgical” spectrum from rock and roll to piano and American hymns; but, I had never seen what I witnessed that day.  The intentionality of the priest, the impressive vestments, the beautiful altar, it spoke to me of something more timeless than the constantly changing series of trends and fads that had always been my church experience.  There was something here that endured, and that something kept drawing me back, not every week, but frequently, as I grappled with what I believed to be my issues with Catholic doctrine.


It was not long before I found my way into Latin liturgy, and I was simply awed by what I witnessed.  If what I had seen previously seemed enduring, then what I witnessed that day could only be described as transcendent.  At that point, I did not know Latin, but on that day I resolved that I would learn it as best as I could, because something in my soul wanted to be more fully immersed in the beauty of that experience.  My impression as a newcomer to the faith was that the deliberate intentionality of the celebrants spoke of a deep love, because no one puts that much thought and effort into every action unless he cares very deeply about the subject of what he is doing.  The care with which the Eucharist was handled, and the veils used on the tabernacle and vessels spoke of something unspeakably precious—a treasure which should take one’s breath to lay eyes on, and an unspeakable privilege to partake of—and it was this impression that also helped me to understand the veils on the women as well, as something else which is regarded with immense dignity and a treasure worth protecting.  The Latin language brought me something I had not previously considered in worship: communion.  Not simply communion with the people in the room with me, but communion with the Church.  The Church throughout the world, as her own nation with her own tongue, but communion with the Church through the ages—billions of Christians, throughout thousands of years, singing and praying aloud in the same voice and same tongue, the same prayers that were now on my own lips, and it gave immense weight to Christ’s words, “when two or three are gathered in My name,” that two or three now numbered innumerably, and I was counted amongst them in a tangible way.


The high altar took my mind back to images I had seen of the Temple of the Old Covenant, and the impression I had of the priest’s posture, facing the altar with his back to us, reminded me of Moses leading Israel from Egypt, following the pillar of fire—except this time it was to a new Promised Land, and the glory of that altar evoked for me the imagery in Revelation of the throne of the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, the final and true Promised Land to which we all sojourn, and the priest approached that throne as I followed.  I yearned for when I could join that communion, and after many months when I was confirmed, as I approached that altar rail and knelt, the Priest who I now fully understood to be in persona Christi, came down from the Altar of Grace with the true and eternal Sacrifice that I was now included in, it brought tears to my eyes that the God who sits a throne more magnificent than that altar would also come in the person of His minister and in the form of that bread to unite with me in Sacrament and truth.  The majesty of the altar contrasted with the humility of simple bread is burned in my mind, and makes tears begin to well up even now as I remember it.


I have always felt that ornate dressings for the altar and vestments for the priest are fitting—it was a problem I had as a Protestant that there was so little reverence given to worship and the objects used for it—because in the Old Testament, God Himself had spent so much time detailing with precision how the altar should be built, and how the priests should be vested.  In the Sacramental reality of the New Covenant, how much more poignant should this be? Far from creating a distance between myself and God, it is as though I can feel Him, calling to me from His eternal throne, and giving me a glimpse of both the eternity which I journey toward and the intimacy of which the Sacrament hints. It spoke deeply to me how the Mass embodies both the communal nature of our worship, and also the deeply personal and intimate reach of the infinite God who reaches into time to touch each of us individually and personally. This is the majesty and mystery which kept me returning until I doctrinally had my head right and received the grace of understanding, and this is the worship which is so uniquely Catholic and did not permit me to continue in other churches, and eventually drew me home.   

 

When I was first questioning what this draw was, I spoke to a former pastor of mine, who said something which unintentionally spoke more for the Catholic Church than anything I had seen to that point, he said, “One thing I will give the Catholics, when something gets challenging, they don’t water it down, they expect you to step up.”  I had had enough watered down “relationship-not-religion,” I had had enough trends and hype, I had had enough teaspoon deep “theology,” and my heart yearned for the depth and mystery of the Infinite, the glory of the Majesty of Majesties, and the promise of a true home beyond this valley of tears—the Mass, and all the ornamentation that came with it, spoke that to my soul, and lit in me a fire that refused to be quenched.


It is disheartening, on the back end of these experiences and this journey I have taken, now to be told that, somehow, it was all “wrong.”  That I should not have felt as I did or had the experiences I had.  That I need to change my paradigm because I was wrong to have been called home like this, and perhaps this should not be my home after all.  If there is anything that is pushing me away from the Church at this time, Bishop Martin, it is men like you who strongly imply that the Protestants had it right, and I was wrong to leave, and instead we should be more like them.  If it were not for the liturgy I experienced, I would likely have not had the motivation to push through my doctrinal scruples and come to the deeper understanding of the faith that led me home, and if I had first encountered a Catholic parish which practiced the things your letter prescribes, I’d have likely chalked it up to another Baptist-adjacent experience and never thought of the Catholic Church again. 

 

You can’t attract Protestants by being more like them, because if what they want is Protestantism, they aren’t going to become Catholic to get more of the same.  We become Catholic because the Church offers something ancient, something timeless, something simultaneously majestic and humble—something which draws us out of ourselves and calls us to something higher.  We come to find the King of Kings who is also a babe in a manger, and in the Mass we find precisely that contrast, and that is why the traditions of the Church have endured through millennia, and why men will endure persecution and martyrdom for such things.


Duc In Altum,

A Convert in the Diocese of Charlotte



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Worship
KEYWORDS: charlotte; dictatorbishop; frankenbishop; michaelmartin

1 posted on 11/12/2025 9:22:43 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...

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2 posted on 11/12/2025 9:23:47 AM PST by ebb tide (Francis' sin-nodal "church" is not the Catholic Church.)
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To: ebb tide

Is there a corresponding moslem cleric who wants to hold services in English instead of Arabic?


3 posted on 11/12/2025 9:27:34 AM PST by bwest
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To: ebb tide

Thank you for posting this. That is a beautiful letter.


4 posted on 11/12/2025 9:42:28 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: ebb tide

“...you accuse us of disobedience to the Church”

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Interesting; the “Church” here being the dictates of mere men, imperfect, even corrupt. I’ve found it far more compelling to be true to the Faith than to the Church, and have decided to do my own thinking when it comes to foolish rules made sometimes arbitrarily because some man or group of men believe that the Catholic masses are stupid. Latin is a common language that unites, and we Catholics are smart enough to understand it in the context of the Mass, and to embrace the tradition it represents. Superciliousness from on high divides, which seems to be the goal of liberals in charge.


5 posted on 11/12/2025 9:59:27 AM PST by DPMD (u)
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To: DPMD

First, I am not Catholic, but am a supporter of the church of St. Peter, when the church does not interfere in my own worship.

My own, private, belief is that mass would be better said in a language understandable to the people present. However, there is still a place for the traditional, Latin, mass. Perhaps as a separate service, or done periodically, perhaps once or twice a month. The Catholic Churches I have known have held a number of services (masses?) through the weekend.


6 posted on 11/12/2025 10:22:40 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: ebb tide
The priest's argument that people don't understand the Latin mass is specious garbage and false.

The mass wording is so well known, and it doesn't change at all. I have attended masses in Vietnamese and Polish and it is quite possible to follow along accurately. And that's without a translation missal, which is usually readily available.

So much easier is Latin. So give me a break, reverend. Lying is a sin.

The reason AmChurch us cracking on the Latin mass is because they want to stomp on orthodox Catholics in every way possible. Their agenda looking forward appears to be more laxity and craziness, including more gayness and more Communism. And obliterating the message of confessing sins, repentance, preaching death, judgment, Heaven, hell.

The Latin mass faithful want these truths preached, and that goes along with the Latin mass mindset.

If they did that, and it took among the rank-and-file, there would be no more liberal Rat catholics.

That's what's really going on.

7 posted on 11/12/2025 11:16:24 AM PST by caddie (Going forward we all need to become Trump, and also Captain Obvious, and Charlie Kirk too. )
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To: FamiliarFace

I’ve reopened my mind to lurhers small catechism. He was right on so many points.


8 posted on 11/12/2025 11:17:34 AM PST by Ikeon (Kill me, and I'll become more powerful than you could ever imagine. )
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To: ebb tide

Great letter.


9 posted on 11/12/2025 11:28:50 AM PST by chopperk
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To: ebb tide

However informative the original article, it’s impossible to post a Catholic topic without the wall of chaff from people who lurk waiting for a chance to bash.


10 posted on 11/12/2025 11:46:35 AM PST by No.6
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To: FamiliarFace

Here, here!!!
What a well written letter, and where I have been for years now!
My Church is leaving me!


11 posted on 11/12/2025 3:30:33 PM PST by bantam
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To: bantam

The Latin Mass was all I had until the 70’s, and then it slowly started to switch to the new post-Vatican II Mass. I always loved the Latin version. It felt HOLY and REVERENT! Even as very young child, I understood that completely. It has never left me. My current pastor is somewhat traditional, but our previous pastor who just retired in July used the Latin in every Mass. Kyrie, Eleison! ❤️

I pray that our church really isn’t leaving us. It would be such a great loss.


12 posted on 11/12/2025 5:55:21 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: jimtorr

A compromise in which separate Masses are celebrated, one in Latin and one in the local patois, seems okey. Choice is good here.

Growing up Catholic, attending Mass in Latin, all the Missals we used provided English translations of the Latin used. Also seems reasonable.

My own guideline, when it comes to choice between Faith vs Church, is to go with Faith. I’m too much of an American to bow to nameless men abroad, particularly men who presided over a Church so riddled with recent scandals, corruption, and coverups.


13 posted on 11/13/2025 10:27:36 AM PST by DPMD (u)
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