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What did the Puritans think about God's ancient promises to Israel, and how they fit into that?
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| Paul Boyer
Posted on 10/09/2025 4:22:32 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
To: CondoleezzaProtege
Who cares what PBS thinks?
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posted on
10/09/2025 4:30:51 PM PDT
by
Ge0ffrey
To: CondoleezzaProtege
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posted on
10/09/2025 4:48:38 PM PDT
by
faithhopecharity
("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
To: CondoleezzaProtege; delchiante; SunkenCiv; Phinneous
In New JerUSAlem,
1716 was a very important year. People in Boston really did go into that year and through that year with a great deal of anxiety and expectation. And when the year passed and nothing happened, you know, people began to say, "What happened here?
Apparently they missed the light:
Yom Kippur and the First Light of America's First Lighthouse
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posted on
10/09/2025 4:57:37 PM PDT
by
Ezekiel
(🆘️ "Come fly with US". 🔴 Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with MARS ♂️, aka every man)
To: CondoleezzaProtege
WHO CARES?
They’re all dead now.
Why are you posting another flame baiting, contentious thread?
What’s the point and how does that edify the church or fellow believers?
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posted on
10/09/2025 5:01:42 PM PDT
by
metmom
(He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
To: CondoleezzaProtege; All
I wondered why someone would post an article from a dead (2012) University of Wisconsin at Madison professor with a Doctorate in American History from Harvard University with the aim to discredit a certain group of Christians who frequent Free Republic ?
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posted on
10/09/2025 5:08:40 PM PDT
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af_vet_1981
( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: af_vet_1981
I await the Rapture, not the Tribulation.
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posted on
10/09/2025 5:46:12 PM PDT
by
Bookshelf
To: CondoleezzaProtege
Well I for one found the article very interesting. Jonathan Edward’s “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.” was required reading when I was in High School.
The Great Awakening influenced Americans beyond the Puritan Era. It was the precursor of the Second Great Awakening which inspired the Abolitionists.
It is a shame so many here dismiss the article because is from PBS.
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posted on
10/09/2025 5:57:39 PM PDT
by
lastchance
(Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
To: lastchance
https://www.jonathan-edwards.org/Sinners.pdf
SINNERS IN THE HANDS
OF AN ANGRY GOD
“Their foot shall slide in due time” (Deut. xxxii. 35
Answers the question of “If you are saved, what are you saved from?”
I discovered it later in life. Worthy of reflection.
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10/09/2025 6:05:53 PM PDT
by
PeterPrinciple
(Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
To: lastchance; af_vet_1981; Ezekiel; Bookshelf; metmom; DIRTYSECRET; Ge0ffrey
Yes! I am so happy PBS covered this! Now more than ever - as the USA will be celebrating 250th birthday next year - I pray we recover our spiritual roots, and understand the role theology played in inspiring our founding. (And guard against it from spurring our unravelling for that matter.)
Charlie Kirk would have wanted this too.
https://youtu.be/xoEjTjcKGMI?si=bfwGyQnsRZ1AW37G
To: DIRTYSECRET
Yes, “it really matters, especially if you are in the Mather family!
So, there.
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posted on
10/09/2025 6:14:48 PM PDT
by
BatGuano
(If only tears could bring Charlie Kirk back.)
To: CondoleezzaProtege
I really appreciate your perspective.
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posted on
10/09/2025 6:34:51 PM PDT
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lastchance
(Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
To: CondoleezzaProtege
The Puritans are a really interesting group in apocalyptic history, because they really saw the prophecies of great blessings to the ancient Israelites applying to themselves. They were wrong. Simple as that.
To: CondoleezzaProtege
The Puritans followed a Reformed tradition, for the most part. So they would have understood Romans 9 and 10 and seen there is a spiritual Israel, and there is a national/ethnic Israel. The Promised Seed is all the OT/NT saints whom have been called out/assembled (Ekkesia— the church/congregation), into spiritual Israel.
https://elder2elder.substack.com/p/in-what-sense-are-israel-and-the
To: CondoleezzaProtege
Yes! I am so happy PBS covered this! Now more than ever - as the USA will be celebrating 250th birthday next year - I pray we recover our spiritual roots, and understand the role theology played in inspiring our founding. (And guard against it from spurring our unravelling for that matter.)
AI Overview
Puritans were deeply involved in and supportive of chattel slavery, viewing it as a biblically permissible and economically necessary institution that provided an opportunity for enslaved Africans to encounter the Gospel. They justified slavery by referencing biblical passages about servitude and the social hierarchy, even as they imposed harsh conditions on enslaved people. Prominent Puritan figures, including ministers, owned slaves and participated in the transatlantic slave trade, and their theological framework generally supported the existence of slavery rather than calling for its abolition.
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posted on
10/09/2025 7:05:45 PM PDT
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af_vet_1981
( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: Bookshelf
I await the Rapture, not the Tribulation.
I await the morning to thank the King of Israel for returning my soul to life with compassion. Abundant is His faithfulness, of which I am not worthy.
Psalm 30:3-5
O LORD, thou hast brought up my soul from the grave: thou hast kept me alive, that I should not go down to the pit.
Sing unto the LORD, O ye saints of his, and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.
For his anger endureth but a moment; in his favour is life: weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning.
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posted on
10/09/2025 7:17:08 PM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: CondoleezzaProtege
The Puritans are a really interesting group in apocalyptic history, because they really saw the prophecies of great blessings to the ancient Israelites applying to themselves.
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A nation that began with 13 Colonies, as Christ began with Him and His 12, and grew to 50 states as the New Covenant Church grew at 50, has a Divine Providence Hand upon it that would have had to include people like the Puritans at some point in its history.
There is no other Nation on this earth that has the New Covenant template in its founding like America, and many of us were blessed to be born here and inherit a foundation that was planted way before 1776.
And look what its grown to.
A Promised Land for the world where billions would flock here if they were allowed.
And maybe in even more biblical apocalyptic terms, as serpent led a nation as the New Covenant Church was always going to transform into when Christ left.
Hopefully for the sake of Israel.
As a sign.
A seed that was sown in this land a long time ago..
To: CondoleezzaProtege
How about among Puritans there was often a tendency to make the way to the cross too narrow, perhaps in reaction against the Antinomian controversy, as described in an account (http://www.the-highway.com/early_american_bauckham.html) of Puritans during the early American period:
“They had, like most preachers of the Gospel, a certain difficulty in determining what we might call the ‘conversion level’, the level of difficulty above which the preacher may be said to be erecting barriers to the Gospel and below which he may be said to be encouraging men to enter too easily into a mere delusion of salvation. Contemporary critics, however, agree that the New England pastors set the level high. Nathaniel Ward, who was step-son to Richard Rogers and a distinguished Puritan preacher himself, is recorded as responding to Thomas Hooker’s sermons on preparation for receiving Christ in conversion with, ‘Mr. Hooker, you make as good Christians before men are in Christ as ever they are after’, and wishing, ‘Would I were but as good a Christian now as you make men while they are preparing for Christ.’
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posted on
10/09/2025 7:27:19 PM PDT
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daniel1212
(Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
To: daniel1212
Yes I don’t know who put salem witch trials in the keyword bar, but things like that and their aversion to all things pagan/art/classical — they took to unhealthy extremes.
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