Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

[Catholic Caucus] German Bishop Opposes Using the Bible to Condemn Homosexuality
New Ways Ministry ^ | September 13, 2025 | Elsie Carson-Holt and Francis DeBernardo

Posted on 09/15/2025 8:12:52 AM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] German Bishop Opposes Using the Bible to Condemn Homosexuality

The Bishop of Mainz, Germany, has spoken out against using Biblical passages as a reason to oppose homosexuality.

Bishop Peter Kohlgraf made his statements during an interview on the television show “SWR Democracy Forum in Hambach Castle,” broadcast by Südwestrundfunk (SWR), a TV channel in western Germany, reported Katholisch.de

Bishop Peter Kohlgraf

Kohlgraf said that one “cannot simply derive timelessly valid, eternal truths” in Biblical passages about homosexuality. The topic of the show was “Taboos in our society – between morality, power, and the media.”

“I don’t take a single sentence from the Bible and say: This is the sentence that applies unquestioningly to everyone,” the bishop continued. “Rather, contemporary findings from the humanities must always be taken into account.”

[Editor’s note: The most commonly cited passages supposedly condemning lesbian and gay people are Leviticus 18:22; Leviticus 20:13; Genesis 19; Romans 1:26–27; 1 Corinthians 6:9–10; 1 Timothy 1:8–11. Contemporary scholarly consensus rejects the idea that these passages refer to lesbian and gay reality recognized since the mid-20th century.]

Bishop Kohlgraf said he treats biblical texts in a different way “than simply using them as a quarry.” He also said that scientifically-based theology is “considerably more advanced” today.

The bishop’s statements are significant because they do not agree with the Vatican’s 1986 document on homosexuality which contends that there is: “a clear consistency within the Scriptures themselves on the moral issue of homosexual behaviour. The Church’s doctrine regarding this issue is thus based, not on isolated phrases for facile theological argument, but on the solid foundation of a constant Biblical testimony.”

During the show, the bishop also affirmed the presence of gay men in the priesthood: “There are openly homosexual priests in Germany, and they are good pastors.”

Bishop Kohlgraf has a long and remarkably positive record on LGBTQ+ issues.  You can learn more about his previous statements  by viewing past Bondings 2.0 posts by clicking here.

Professor Ilse Müllner

The theological literature critiquing the idea that the Bible opposes homosexuality is vast and from varied methodologies.  One good summary of some of the arguments can be found in a 2018 Katholisch.de interview with Ilse Müllner, Professor of Biblical Theology at the Institute for Catholic Theology at the University of Kassel, Germany. Müllner states:

“. . .[T]he Bible does not at all provide any insight into how Christians should position themselves today with regard to the issue of homosexuality. Firstly, because the Bible says nothing about homosexuality as we understand it today. And secondly, because the sexual acts described in it must always be viewed in their respective cultural and socio-historical context. The concept of a homosexual partnership did not yet exist back then. It has only been spoken of since the beginning of the 19th century.”

The theologian offers the example of how interpretations of Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:26-27 which condemn homosexuality are wrong:

“You can’t use these passages against homosexuality as it is understood today, because they are not about a long-term love relationship between people of the same sex. You have to know that before using such quotations for argumentation. Leviticus rejects the idea of ​​a man lying with another man as if he were with a woman. This describes anal sex between men. But this is not about a homosexual relationship. It is about a sexual act that is condemned because it is not considered beneficial to the community. This becomes clear from the context, where, among other things, sexual intercourse with a menstruating, i.e., infertile, woman is also rejected. Narrative literature often refers to Genesis 19. Here, guests who come to the city of Sodom – hence the term sodomy – are to be humiliated through sexual intercourse. Again, this is not about homosexual relationships. Instead, men are to be raped by a group of other men. It is therefore about xenophobic violence. This Bible passage clearly illustrates the connection between sexuality and power. We must address this connection, especially in light of the abuse scandal.”


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: frankenbishops; germanbishops; heretic; homofascism; homos; kohlgraf; lataesententiae; peterkohlgraf; sexualpredator

Frankenchurch Barf Alert

Francis made Kohlgraf one of his frankenbishops in 2017.

1 posted on 09/15/2025 8:12:52 AM PDT by ebb tide
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: ebb tide

So the homo can write his own bible if he doesn’t like this one.


2 posted on 09/15/2025 8:15:15 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Wake up, smell the cat food in your bank account. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ebb tide

And the Bee misses another one!


3 posted on 09/15/2025 8:16:05 AM PDT by FatherofFive (We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ebb tide

The Catholic hierarchy is loaded with agnostic homosexuals. They must be eliminated.


4 posted on 09/15/2025 8:18:38 AM PDT by allendale
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #5 Removed by Moderator

To: ebb tide

What utter bullkrap (and bingo too, some blatant lies about scripture and history).

I would countless that maybe some homosexuals are good pastors. But having pastoral skills isn’t the whole job of being a priest. Part of the job is to teach and be a role model.
He may benefit from rereading James 3:1


6 posted on 09/15/2025 8:40:15 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ebb tide
“You can’t use these passages against homosexuality as it is understood today, because they are not about a long-term love relationship between people of the same sex."

Virtually all of Leviticus 18 is a discussion of 'next level' sexual sins:
> Don't have sex with a close relative (verse 6)
> Don't do it with your mother or mother-in-law(7, 8)
> Don't with a sister or step-sister or half-sister (9, 11)
> Don't with a grand-daughter (10)>br> ...etc..

Verse 22... the anti-homosexual verse... adds the fact that it is "detestable" (also: 'abomination' in many translations). I doubt that God has changed His mind here.

There are just some things that don't need further detail. All of these describe forbidden acts. There are no disclaimers about 'except if the subjects love one another' ... none.

In fact, if you were really trying to stretch sanity in the manner that this German 'Bishop' is doing, you might construe from this chapter that the rape of a random, unrelated, unknown woman is actually okay since that ISN'T mentioned in this chapter. But does God actually have to spell that one out for us?

Final takeaway: Every verse from Lev. 18 between vv/ 7-24 begins with the admonition 'DO NOT'... there is no loophole.

7 posted on 09/15/2025 8:42:33 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: faithhopecharity
I think this man illustrates why homosexuals can't even be good pastors. Homosexuals do not “love” one another. They abuse one another (it's why they are susceptible to AIDS).
Calling their behavior “love” is propaganda and a lie and the basis of the "modern" understanding of same sex behavior.
8 posted on 09/15/2025 9:08:36 AM PDT by Varda
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: HYPOCRACY
the bishop continued. “Rather, contemporary findings from the humanities must always be taken into account.”

The Humanities? The "humanities" are fluid and/or malleable. The Bible is pretty much stable.

Sorry, your Excellency, I'll stick with the non-homosexual Bible.

9 posted on 09/15/2025 9:11:59 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is already under the tent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ebb tide

I wonder if he marks out these words in the Catholic NAB bible, 1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor boy prostitutes[d] nor sodomites 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God.


10 posted on 09/15/2025 9:12:06 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( REOPEN THE MENTAL HOSPITALS CLOSED IN THE 1970S!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Varda

Hi!
Well, I’m just not close enough to the subject to be able to comment on that. Maybe some of them sincerely do love. I’d guess this is so. It still doesn’t qualify them to become priests or pastors or ministers or rabbis or bishops


11 posted on 09/15/2025 9:26:08 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ebb tide

IOWs, now attack the Christians that are Bible believing. The church is now (and for some time now) attacking the very people they claim to care for... Spitting at God’s word as “uncaring”.

The whitewashing of God as something “only” of love without admitting that God was also a jealous God that hated evil. The Holy Spirit in me lets me know when I do wrong/evil because He can not stand the sight of it. Gently (or not so gently) telling me to straighten up.


12 posted on 09/15/2025 9:38:47 AM PDT by LowOiL (In America today, it is considered worse to judge evil than to do evil - Burk Parsons)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ebb tide

Wouldn’t want to bring Christianity into it, huh, Bishop. Ok, then use the Koran which spells it out even harsher.


13 posted on 09/15/2025 9:39:38 AM PDT by bgill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: faithhopecharity

Love is not a feeling. Love is an action.


14 posted on 09/15/2025 9:52:54 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: ebb tide

15 posted on 09/15/2025 9:55:34 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ebb tide

What about the koran these German heretics worship?


16 posted on 09/15/2025 10:19:20 AM PDT by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower. D)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

They are called “cafeteria Catholics”.

They stand in line and pick the items they like and ignore those they do not.


17 posted on 09/15/2025 10:25:39 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson