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[Catholic Caucus] Do Not Be Conformed to the World…or to Church Leaders
Crisis Magazine ^ | September 10, 2025 | Sheryl Collmer

Posted on 09/10/2025 6:58:14 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] Do Not Be Conformed to the World…or to Church Leaders

When the culture is benign, being a conformist works. But in a malignant culture, where the devil roams freely at the highest levels, beware conformity; it can kill body and soul.

The word of the day for Catholics is “unity.” For the sake of it, entire congregations are ghettoized (TLM), bishops exiled (Strickland), faculties gutted (Sacred Heart), and dioceses fractured (Charlotte). Strange to think that the peculiar synodality project is more or less based on giving every wayward lifestyle and viewpoint a podium but the faithful who have dedicated their lives and relationships to Christ are pressed into passive, conforming ranks. 

One of the many things the heavy hands on the tiller of the Church don’t realize is that unity cannot be forced. In the short term, they may be able to line people up like identical service robots, but it only fuels an equal and opposite reaction farther down the road. It’s Newtonian psychology. 

Conformity in an evil age asks us to deny common sense, which is our use of reason. For unity’s sake, we’re told to believe that the Mass attended by almost every saint we’ve ever loved is now something pernicious. The “needle in every arm” campaign asked us to ignore the fact that a novel technology had no long-term safety testing. 1984’s Winston Smith had to swallow the non-sense that freedom is slavery and ignorance strength. 

As long as society and the Gospel are in harmony about standards of moral behavior, it’s safe to be a conformist. The vast majority of humans are; rebels have always been anomalous. But when a society is Godless, pornographic, and corrupt, conformity can kill body and soul. 

Genuine unity is spontaneous, based on shared belief and experience. It springs from joy and the “click” of recognition when we hear the truth. St. John Paul wrote: “The unity willed by God can be attained only by the adherence of all to the content of revealed faith in its entirety.” So, if unity is really the goal, the road to get there is the whole deposit of faith and not a conniption of administrative flaps.

And yet, many bishops want to take the shortcut of uniformity, executed through cancellations, firings, and fiddly rules about our devotional gestures at Mass. Uniformity is like a knockoff Patek Philippe wristwatch; it looks swanky, but it stops telling time shortly after the street vendor packs up his case and makes a run for it. 

All these firings and restrictions will never get us to true unity. The greatest pools of genuine unity are forming around those who are unjustly sidelined—not among the artificially uniform ranks of the compliant. Real unity draws people in; conformity just keeps them quiet.

When Bishop Joseph Strickland was dismissed from his diocese, there was mention of “lack of fraternity” with brother bishops. No one was supposed to say anything about the flaccid response to homosexuality in the Church, or the contradictory remarks of Pope Francis, or the failure to address the McCarrick crisis. As long as no one mentioned the elephant, the bishops were safe in their ballroom, shielded from the laity’s demands. The Strickland Problem was solved by booting him off the line to restore uniformity, a cheap and shortsighted solution.

Bishop Strickland noted recently in an interview for The Catholic Herald that “authentic unity in the Church is never built on silence in the face of error.” Far from losing his voice, the ostracized American bishop has just launched a new website to continue preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ crucified. 

When one person speaks up, it’s a reproach to the cowardly and furtive. And if they try to silence the upstart, the opposite inevitably occurs: truth is amplified. And truth will prevail; we are in the prefatory period, just before it does. We can hasten or slacken it by our willingness to do the hard work of discernment and speaking up ourselves. 

This is not the time for mindless conformity. It’s not the time to be silent, or to assume that someone else will take care of things. It’s not a time to allow corrupt men, even among the clergy, to drive us into uniform lines of spongy followers. After everything we’ve been through, it’s not the time to abdicate our responsibility to study and discern what’s being told to us by “experts,” including theological ones.

This is a hard call for Catholics because we live within a hierarchy. We’re accustomed to following leaders we assume to be led, in turn, by Christ. But what if they’re not? What of the ones who carry on secret lives, cover up for predators, use the monies we’ve put in the basket to fund support for abortion and other abominations, betray doctrine—and even those not guilty of such egregious violations, who stand silently by, which is a sin in itself for those entrusted with souls? 

We have to take the counsel of our Lord, to obey the law of God, which they are charged with preaching (whether or not they do), but we must avoid following them into perdition. This now demands careful deliberation. It’s not the good ol’ days; we have to know our faith very well in order to assess what we’re told. That means study of the Catechism in particular because it is such a direct and concise explanation of the Faith. When bishops and clergy exhibit an ignorance—or a deliberate rejection—of the deposit of faith, we have to be informed enough to know what’s right and what’s not.

When bishops act and speak from their lawful authority on matters of faith and morals, we obey. But we don’t have to do it silently. In fact, canon law defends the dignity of the laity when they respectfully speak up:

Can. 212 §3. According to the knowledge, competence, and prestige which they possess, they (the Christian faithful) have the right and even at times the duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church and to make their opinion known to the rest of the Christian faithful, without prejudice to the integrity of faith and morals, with reverence toward their pastors, and attentive to common advantage and the dignity of persons.

Regina Magazine has just released a film, Bread Not Stones, which is a teaching response to Bishop Michael Martin’s attempt to impose uniformity of worship upon his diocese of Charlotte, North Carolina. It’s an excellent example of speaking up reverently to their pastor whom they believe may be acting against the good of the people and the Church.

Those who speak up for truth in this age, who will not conform themselves to falsehood or treachery, stand between us and ruin. Let’s expand their ranks. Within the limits of careful discernment, we must stand up and speak out. Conformity in an evil age is a mortal risk.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: dictatorbishops; frankenbishops; strickland

When Bishop Joseph Strickland was dismissed from his diocese, there was mention of “lack of fraternity” with brother bishops. No one was supposed to say anything about the flaccid response to homosexuality in the Church, or the contradictory remarks of Pope Francis, or the failure to address the McCarrick crisis. As long as no one mentioned the elephant, the bishops were safe in their ballroom, shielded from the laity’s demands. The Strickland Problem was solved by booting him off the line to restore uniformity, a cheap and shortsighted solution.


1 posted on 09/10/2025 6:58:14 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 09/10/2025 6:59:18 PM PDT by ebb tide (The "synodal church" is not the Catholic Church.)
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To: ebb tide

Totally made-up horsesh*t with no proof to the substance, ebby. And you know it. Everything you post about Fired Strickland has the same odor.


4 posted on 09/11/2025 2:13:58 PM PDT by Oystir ( )
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To: Oystir

This is a Caucus Thread. You aren’t Catholic, so GO AWAY! And take your vile comments with you!


5 posted on 09/11/2025 2:22:09 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: Oystir
To paraphrase an old Fox News logo:

I report, the foister lies.

6 posted on 09/11/2025 2:34:28 PM PDT by ebb tide (The "synodal church" is not the Catholic Church.)
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To: nanetteclaret

When Bishop Joseph Strickland was dismissed from his diocese, there was mention of “lack of fraternity” with brother bishops. No one was supposed to say anything about the flaccid response to homosexuality in the Church, or the contradictory remarks of Pope Francis, or the failure to address the McCarrick crisis. As long as no one mentioned the elephant, the bishops were safe in their ballroom, shielded from the laity’s demands. The Strickland Problem was solved by booting him off the line to restore uniformity, a cheap and shortsighted solution.

Please state facts, any facts, that back this statement by ebby, Nan. You won’t find any. Zip, nada, nothing.


7 posted on 09/11/2025 2:44:27 PM PDT by Oystir ( )
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To: Oystir

I’m sure you would have been the first to call for Athanasius’ excommunication with similar lies.

And the first to light a flame to Joan of Arc’s pyre.


8 posted on 09/11/2025 5:20:18 PM PDT by ebb tide (The "synodal church" is not the Catholic Church.)
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To: nanetteclaret; Oystir
Please state facts, any facts, that back this statement by ebby, Nan. You won’t find any. Zip, nada, nothing.

Here you go, foister:

But when Bishop Strickland discussed his removal with Raymond Arroyo on EWTN’s “The World Over” broadcast, he reported that administrative problems (real or imagined) did not figure in the Vatican’s case against him. He was removed, he says, because of “a lack of fraternity with my brother bishops.” In other words, he was not a team player.

9 posted on 09/11/2025 6:15:39 PM PDT by ebb tide (The "synodal church" is not the Catholic Church.)
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To: Oystir

Bp. Strickland was my Bishop when I lived in the Diocese of Tyler. He is a very holy man, and your vile comments just show what type of person you are. You always manage to say something ugly about Bp. Strickland and I’m going to call you out every time you do. You’ve never told me I’m wrong about my belief that you aren’t Catholic, which is telling. Since you aren’t and this is a Caucus thread, go away!


10 posted on 09/11/2025 7:18:38 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: ebb tide

Facts, not personal propaganda(aka lies - as you would call them). FS says he didn’t play in the sandbox too well? What a joke, ebby. Fired Strickland, at the very minimum, was disobedient, disorderly and in derision of his vows. Now FS in unrepentant. Good luck FS.

And good luck to you too, ebby. Look at the title of your posting. Can you say anti-Catholic, ebby? Of course you can; you can also look in the mirror.


11 posted on 09/12/2025 3:42:57 PM PDT by Oystir ( )
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To: nanetteclaret

Fair enough, Nan. And I mean that sincerely. Tell us. Why was Strickland fired? Did you ever get a full explanation from anyone who knows the truth?


12 posted on 09/12/2025 3:46:38 PM PDT by Oystir ( )
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To: Oystir

Oystir, you’re the most anti-Catholic “catholic” on this forum.

You’re pro-homo, anti-TLM, you defend heretics and blast pre-conciliar popes, including St. Pius X.

And you haven’t named one fault of the good Bishop Strickland who is an orthodox Catholic, unlike you, Jimmy Martin and Jorge Bergoglio.


13 posted on 09/12/2025 4:25:00 PM PDT by ebb tide (The "synodal church" is not the Catholic Church.)
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To: ebb tide

Your glasses need cleaning, ebby. And so does your mirror. I don’t bash Popes, I don’t bash sinners - gay or otherwise, I don’t bash saints, I don’t bash others on FR, I don’t call people names or call them liars or insinuate they are gay. All of these are in your purview.

I do point out facts. I do repudiate inflamed comments from your insane clown posse.

Here is a fact(s). Fired Strickland, and his comment you posted in this post, is no better than a disgruntled employee. The fact is no-one fully knows the underlying reasons he was fired. His comment doesn’t count - it is one of a disgruntled, fired employee. Actually, he is worse than that. FS was presented with a problem of his own making - whatever that is, bad administration would be his best option but that seems doubtful if we take his dubious word. Was it his dubious words that got FS in trouble? Bad teaching? A lack of knowledge of Catholic theology or teaching? Was it misleading his sheep? These seem plausible and even FS would have to admit as much.

At a very minimum FS repudiated his superiors and broke his vows. These, my dear ebby, are valid reasons for repudiating the Fired Strickland. It makes no difference if he likes or hates your favorite sins. It makes no difference if he likes your favorite Pope or your favorite Martian. It makes no difference if he likes the Latin Mass or if he fails to eat fish on Friday. FS is responsible for his own failure to have credibility.

You are responsible for posting your irresponsible posts and those of the misleading Cartoon Network, which you fail to investigate for their factual and/or historical inaccuracies. You are complicit in their fallacies and scandals - whether fired, excommunicated or heretical. Calling something “Vatican II” or gay, or Jesuit, or an anti-Pope is not valid. Buy some Windex.


14 posted on 09/13/2025 1:43:57 PM PDT by Oystir ( )
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To: Oystir
Calling something “Vatican II” or gay, or Jesuit, or an anti-Pope is not valid. Buy some Windex.

Vatican II, sodomites, heretical Jesuits are all facts of life, foister. They're all bad, yet you defend them all.

As far as anti-popes, show where I have ever called anyone that.

Your slander is getting out of hand. You have defended Jimmy Martin blessing homos, you have blasted popes Pius XII and St Pius X. You have disparaged the TLM. You have defended Beroglio and Tucho's Fiducia Supplicans and Amoris Laetitiae.

You are the anti-Catholic, not I. Any orthodox Catholic sources that offend your liberal, heterodox, and sinful senses, you huff and puff like and scream "Cartoon Network", just as a homo would scream when his man-purse is stolen by a six-year old girl.

Stop pretending to be a Catholic, and admit that you have left the Church and have turned against Her as many of your Jesuit pals have done.

15 posted on 09/13/2025 4:39:43 PM PDT by ebb tide (The "synodal church" is not the Catholic Church.)
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To: Oystir
The fact is no-one fully knows the underlying reasons he (Strickland) was fired.

So why have you vilified him so relentlessly?

Why do you refuse to vilify the homosexualist, Jesuit Jimmy Martin, and the Jesuit pope who has given him so much support?

Everybody knows of Jimmy Martin's public support of sodomites and sodomy. But you defend him.

And now you admit you don't know why Strickland was removed.

Yet you choose to attack Strickland with no factual support, while supporting homosexual Jesuits.

16 posted on 09/13/2025 4:50:25 PM PDT by ebb tide (The "synodal church" is not the Catholic Church.)
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To: Oystir
The fact is no-one fully knows the underlying reasons he was fired.

Pope Leo knows, he was the one who passed down Bergoglio's dictatorial order of termination.

17 posted on 09/13/2025 6:43:30 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Oystir
Calling something “Vatican II” or gay, or Jesuit, or an anti-Pope is not valid. Buy some Windex.

I've noticed you have picked up the homos's lexicon of "gay" versus the correct term of sodomites, homos, perverts, freaks, etc.

I refuse to refer to them with such a benign adjective as "gay", as you do, foister.

Your supposedly "catholic" mask is slipping off.

It has just been a matter of time.

18 posted on 09/13/2025 7:21:26 PM PDT by ebb tide (Defenders of homosexuals are not Catholic.)
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To: Oystir
As a matter of fact, foister, you used the word "gay" three times in your post #14.

Why use just that word rather than sodomite or homosexual?

19 posted on 09/13/2025 9:11:39 PM PDT by ebb tide (Defenders of homosexuals are not Catholic.)
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