Posted on 05/24/2025 4:32:09 AM PDT by vespa300
AI Generated Commentary...(NOT SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST)
AI Overview Learn more Revelation 11:19 describes a powerful vision of the temple of God in heaven opening, revealing the ark of the covenant within, followed by dramatic celestial events. The opening of the temple and the appearance of the ark signify God's presence and protection for his people, even amidst earthly turmoil. The subsequent lightning, thunder, earthquake, and hailstorm are powerful symbols of God's judgment and intervention.
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Notice the language above. The same language found when the 10 commandments were first given. "thunder, lightning,"
So in this ONE Text. Revelation 11:19, as the AI generated commentary states......we see both the JUDGEMENT and a reference to the 10 commandments which was in the ark of the covenant.
The Seventh day Adventist message to a soon to be destroyed world? We are in the Judgement Hour, the investigate or Pre Advent Judgement. And the law of God as seen by John in the heavenly vision.....the 10 commandments , the basis for this judgement and has not changed one jot or tittle.
Come out of her my people.....because the Bible describes a mammoth deception out there. And the world marvels after her and her fake law.
Sabbath blessings to all.
In Revelation 16, verse 17, we read essentially the same words Christ uttered on the cross.....IT IS DONE!
The Judgement is complete. All fates are sealed on earth. Like when the door to Noah’s ark closed.....all inside fates were sealed as those outside.
Then Revelation describes that great fake counterfeit Christian power as a “city”....and God remembered what she did to so many during her dark period and what she was doing just prior to the end of the Judgement. Persecuting those who would not conform to her spurious law. For she hates the law of God which exposes her.
He has a big score to settle with her. She herself had made kings and nations drunk with the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
Quote Revelation 16 verse 17 and on:
17 The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and out of the temple came a loud voice from the throne, saying, “It is done!”
18 Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since mankind has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake. 19 The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath.
She should have never tampered with what God made “holy” and she should have never killed so many who would not bow down to her arrogance.
Much like Belshazzer who brought the holy vessels from the Temple to Babylon. Had a big party and called for the holy vessels. And they drunk out of them.
He lost his life that very night. The story is in Daniel chapter 5.
Never, tamper with God’s holy things. The writing is on the wall just like Belshazzer saw. He didn’t make it to the morning:
God’s holy thing:
2 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.
2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.
Daniel 5:
The Writing on the Wall
5 King Belshazzar gave a great banquet for a thousand of his nobles and drank wine with them. 2 While Belshazzar was drinking his wine, he gave orders to bring in the gold and silver goblets that Nebuchadnezzar his father[a] had taken from the temple in Jerusalem, so that the king and his nobles, his wives and his concubines might drink from them. 3 So they brought in the gold goblets that had been taken from the temple of God in Jerusalem, and the king and his nobles, his wives and his concubines drank from them. 4 As they drank the wine, they praised the gods of gold and silver, of bronze, iron, wood and stone.
5 Suddenly the fingers of a human hand appeared and wrote on the plaster of the wall, near the lampstand in the royal palace. The king watched the hand as it wrote. 6 His face turned pale and he was so frightened that his legs became weak and his knees were knocking.
SDA Bible Commentary on Revelation 11:19
Ark of his testament. The ark in the typical sanctuary was the depository of the Ten Commandments, God’s immutable moral law for all men in all ages. No believer in God in Jewish times could think of the ark without becoming immediately conscious of the Ten Commandments. John’s vision of the ark above argues eloquently that in earth’s last hours God’s great moral law is to be central in the thinking and in the lives of all who seek to serve God in spirit and in truth (see on chs. 12:17; 14:12; cf. GC 433).
Lightnings, and voices, and thunderings. As under the seventh plague (ch. 16:18).
An earthquake. As under the seventh plague (ch. 16:18, 19, cf. on ch. 11:13).
Great hail. As under the seventh plague (ch. 16:21).
Evangelicals don’t believe any of it, of course. No law, no ark, no covenant...NO 10 COMMANDMENTS, no judgment after OSAS. John didn’t know what he was talking about? How could he, when the law was nailed to the cross AND FULFULLED BY CHRIST. That’s what the Evangelical pastors keep saying, right? Revelation 11:19 clearly says otherwise.
Break and teach is what they do.
Matthew 5:17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
It’s bizarre.....John sees the ark of the covenant which contained the 10 commandments in heaven. Even the same language when the 10 commandments were given on earth...he sees AND HEARS in the heavenly sanctuary......”lightning and thunder.”
And all in the Sanctuary where JUDGEMENT took and takes place.
If people would read the Bible for themselves and study it and pray over it.....instead of letting their priests and pastors do their thinking for them.....they too would be amazed by this Book of God. And they would realize not one jot or tittle of the moral law, the 10 commandments has changed. And that there is a judgement.
God is going to judge every single Christian who claimed his name. Peter said “Judgement begins with the house of the Lord.” Jesus said every word will be brought into the Judgement...either good or bad.
Daniel 7 details this judgement scene. The “court was seated and the books were opened.” And a throne with “Fiery wheels”....obviously MOVEMENT in the heavenly Sanctuary.
From the holy place to the most holy place and the judgement hour is NOW. and part of this judgement will include final justice for the little horn of Daniel 7. This fake counterfeit Christian power and all she did....the horrors of so many innocents....millions. She gets wine of the wrath of God this time......Her wrath is described in Revelation.....when she had her power. Then God’s wrath to deal with her.......
God doesn’t remember confessed sins......but his memory is perfect on unconfessed and unrepentant sins. Especially gross sins.......Come out of her my people. You don’t want to be even around her when he metes out his punishment....stand clear.
——>God is going to judge every single Christian who claimed his name. Peter said “Judgement begins with the house of the Lord.” Jesus said every word will be brought into the Judgement...either good or bad.
Doesn’t apply to Evangelicals. OSAJ/OJAJ means just that. A microsecond decision on Grace and they are assured Salvation. No amount of sin committed after will affect that. And of course, sin and God’s law is for the unsaved, not them.
I don’t know where you’re getting your info from, but that doesn’t sound right. At least they didnt change the Second Commandment so they can worship Mary.
——>I don’t know where you’re getting your info from, but that doesn’t sound right.
I’m getting my information from your Evangelical brethren on this site, in part.
Once Saved, Always Saved/Once Judged, Always Judged is Evangelical 101. It’s been discussed many times on FR. And, I was flat out told by an Evangelical FR member that God’s law is for the unsaved, and NOT FOR THEM. They have also said that THEY CANNOT SIN, or their flesh can, but their spirit can’t. That is Nicolaitan doctrine and comes right from the mind of Lucifer.
Ark of his testament. The ark in the typical sanctuary was the depository of the Ten Commandments, God’s immutable moral law for all men in all ages. No believer in God in Jewish times could think of the ark without becoming immediately conscious of the Ten Commandments. John’s vision of the ark above argues eloquently that in earth’s last hours God’s great moral law is to be central in the thinking and in the lives of all who seek to serve God in spirit and in truth (see on chs. 12:17; 14:12; cf. GC 433).
Lightnings, and voices, and thunderings. As under the seventh plague (ch. 16:18).
An earthquake. As under the seventh plague (ch. 16:18, 19, cf. on ch. 11:13).
Great hail. As under the seventh plague (ch. 16:21).
Very interesting. Thank you for posting this. I'm always interested in what biblical scholars from faith traditions other than my own have to say about certain passages of Scripture. Here are a couple of commentaries on this verse from Catholic sources:
11:19 ark of his covenant: The throne of God in the heavenly temple. From its base issue divine judgments symbolized by violent thunderstorms and earthquakes (4:5; 16:17-18). • John sees the heavenly counterpart to the ancient ark where Yahweh sat invisibly enthroned in the sanctuaries of Israel (2 Sam 6:2; Is 37:16).
(Ignatius Catholic Study Bible)
11:19. The seer introduces the heavenly temple (the location par excellence of God's presence), paralleling the earlier mention of the temple of Jerusalem (cf. 11:1-2). The opening of the temple and the sight of the Ark of the Covenant show that the messianic era has come to an end and God's work of salvation has been completed. The ark was the symbol of Israel's election and salvation and of God's presence in the midst of his people. According to a Jewish tradition, reported in 2 Maccabees 2:4-8, Jeremiah placed the ark in a secret hiding place prior to the destruction of Jerusalem, and it would be seen again when the Messiah carne. The author of the Apocalypse uses this to assure us that God has not forgotten his covenant: he has sealed it definitively in heaven, where the ark is located.
Many early commentators interpreted the ark as a reference to Christ's sacred humanity, and St Bede explains that just as the manna was kept in the original ark, so Christ's divinity lies hidden in his sacred body (cf. "Explanatio Apocalypsis", 11, 19).
The heavenly covenant is the new and eternal one made by Jesus Christ (cf. Mt 26:26-29 and par.) which will be revealed to all at his second coming when the Church will triumph, as the Apocalypse goes on to describe. The presence of the ark in the heavenly temple symbolizes the sublimity of the messianic kingdom, which exceeds anything man could create. "The vigilant and active expectation of the coming of the Kingdom is also the expectation of a finally perfect justice for the living and the dead, for people of all times and places, a justice which Jesus Christ, installed as supreme Judge, will establish (cf. Mt 24:29-44, 46; Acts 10:42; 2 Cor 5: 10). This promise, which surpasses all human possibilities, directly concerns our life in this world. For true justice must include everyone; it must explain the immense load of suffering borne by all generations. In fact, without the resurrection of the dead and the Lord's judgment, there is no justice in the full sense of the term. The promise of the resurrection is freely made to meet the desire for true justice dwelling in the human heart" (SCDF, "Libertatis Conscientia", 60).
The thunder and lightning which accompany the appearance of the ark are reminiscent of the way God made his presence felt on Sinai; they reveal God's mighty intervention (cf. Rev 4:5; 8:5) which is now accompanied by the chastisement of the wicked, symbolized by the earthquake and hailstones (cf. Ex 9: 13-35).
(Navarre Catholic Bible Commentary)
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