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[Catholic Caucus] Pope Leo XIV suggests he believes Pope Francis is in heaven
LifeSite News ^ | May 19, 2025 | Michael Haynes

Posted on 05/19/2025 2:55:51 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] Pope Leo XIV suggests he believes Pope Francis is in heaven

The remark by the American pope has raised eyebrows and given rise to speculation of a papal canonization, though such an event is unlikely in the immediate future.

Pope Leo XIV commented Sunday that he believed Pope Francis was in heaven, thus echoing a phrase employed by a prominent cardinal just prior to the conclave.

Some 200,000 people are estimated to have been present in St. Peter’s Square on Sunday for the opening Mass of Pope Leo XIV’s pontificate.

Just around a month after the death of Pope Francis, the many crowds eagerly listening to the words of his successor heard Leo attest to Francis’ presence in heaven:

During Mass, I strongly felt the spiritual presence of Pope Francis accompanying us from heaven.

In making such a remark, Leo appeared to suggest that the late pope was enjoying the Beatific Vision in heaven.

The Catholic Church teaches the necessity of praying for the souls of the dead, noting that those who die and go to purgatory – due to needing further purification of their sins – are to be remembered by the Church in prayer.

Drawing from Scripture, the Church teaches the importance not just of praying for the souls of the faithful departed, but also of offering sacrifices and penances for them. Quoting directly from St. John Chrysostom, the Church teaches:

Let us help and commemorate them. If Job’s sons were purified by their father’s sacrifice, why would we doubt that our offerings for the dead bring them some consolation? Let us not hesitate to help those who have died and to offer our prayers for them.

However, in recent decades, there has been a growing custom of describing the deceased individual as being in a “better place” or quite simply in “heaven.”

Such a practice has also led to the decline in praying for the dead, since those in heaven no longer require the assistance of prayer. As attested to by many priests, fewer and fewer Catholics remain aware of the dire importance of praying for the holy souls of the departed, believing instead that many go directly to heaven.

Re – dean of the College of Cardinals – described Francis as being able to “bless the whole world from heaven” as part of his homily:

Dear Pope Francis, we now ask you to pray for us. May you bless the Church, bless Rome, and bless the whole world from heaven as you did last Sunday from the balcony of this Basilica in a final embrace with all the people of God, but also embrace humanity that seeks the truth with a sincere heart and holds high the torch of hope.

Similar phraseology was used by Joseph Cardinal Zen during his intervention to the General Congregations of cardinals, prior to the conclave.

Indeed, Pope Francis himself made similar comments about the late Pope Benedict XVI on the first anniversary of the German pope’s death.

Delivering a post-Angelus address – just like Leo – Francis commented:

One year ago, Pope Benedict xvi ended his earthly journey, after having lovingly and wisely served the Church. We feel so much affection, gratitude and admiration for him. He blesses and accompanies us from Heaven. A round of applause for Benedict XVI!

Notwithstanding the growing trend of describing the souls of the recently deceased as being in heaven, the Church’s emphasis on praying for the dead remains.

The Council of Trent defined that “there is a Purgatory, and that the souls there detained are helped by the suffrages of the faithful, but principally by the acceptable sacrifice of the altar.”

Consequently, the council fathers urged that the true teaching of purgatory be widely taught and that the bishops ensure Masses, prayers, and works of piety are offered up for the repose of the souls of the dead.

Such a practice is not just an act of charity, but also of justice. Father Michael Monshau O.P. – a professor of liturgy and spirituality in Rome – commented that “this is an aspect of the Catholic patrimony that must not be forgotten or de-emphasized. Justice demands that our brothers and sisters in the faith who have died find in us faithful friends who acknowledge that it is indeed a good and pious thing to pray for the dead.”

Catholics are encouraged to continue to remember the repose of the soul of Pope Francis in prayer.


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Despite Pope Leo stating:

During Mass, I strongly felt the spiritual presence of Pope Francis accompanying us from heaven.

Catholics are encouraged to continue to remember the repose of the soul of Pope Francis in prayer.

1 posted on 05/19/2025 2:55:52 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...

Ping


2 posted on 05/19/2025 2:56:23 PM PDT by ebb tide (The Synodal "church" is not the Catholic Church.)
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To: ebb tide

a tough ask, et


3 posted on 05/19/2025 3:05:03 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: ebb tide

He gave the evil Bishop Paglia the sack from the JPII Institute. Overall, a net plus.


4 posted on 05/19/2025 3:14:31 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: one guy in new jersey

Canonizing Confusion


5 posted on 05/19/2025 3:15:41 PM PDT by ebb tide (The Synodal "church" is not the Catholic Church.)
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To: ebb tide

Bob and I disagree on this one.


6 posted on 05/19/2025 3:17:09 PM PDT by Fireone (1.Avoid crowds 2.Head on a swivel 3.Be prepared to protect & defend those around you 4.Avoid crowds)
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To: ebb tide

I thought he was buried....


7 posted on 05/19/2025 3:18:00 PM PDT by Paladin2 (YMMV)
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To: Dr. Sivana
He gave the evil Bishop Paglia the sack from the JPII Institute. Overall, a net plus.

However:

Whilst Paglia has been removed from his position, the president of the John Paul II Institute – who is subject to the Grand Chancellor – remains in place. Since 2021, that office has been held by Monsignor Philippe Bordeyne, whose views on traditional Catholic morality and homosexual advocacy have also given many cause for concern.

Paglia remains as president of the PAV.

8 posted on 05/19/2025 3:19:07 PM PDT by ebb tide (The Synodal "church" is not the Catholic Church.)
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To: ebb tide

I’ll take that bet.


9 posted on 05/19/2025 3:20:56 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Long live The Great MAGA Kangz!)
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To: ebb tide
Didn’t they used to give JD cards to youts who stole tires?

Give him time. As the great Fr. Heidt (RIP) taught me in Holy Apostles Seminary . . . "The wheels of Rome turn VERY slowly, but they do turn."
10 posted on 05/19/2025 3:29:52 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: ebb tide

Bad sign


11 posted on 05/19/2025 4:26:40 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: ebb tide

I see this more along the lines of throwing the Usual Suspects a bone. It does no real harm.


12 posted on 05/19/2025 6:59:42 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: AnAmericanMother
It does no real harm.

I disagree. I think it discourages praying for the repose of the soul of Pope Francis. If people believe he's already in Heaven, they won't be praying for him.

13 posted on 05/19/2025 9:15:01 PM PDT by ebb tide (The Synodal "church" is not the Catholic Church.)
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To: ebb tide

Good point. Will pray.


14 posted on 05/20/2025 6:05:02 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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