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Posted on 05/14/2025 4:17:47 AM PDT by vespa300
John Wesley (1703 – 1791)
“… In many respects, the Pope has an indisputable claim to those titles. He is, in an emphatical sense, the man of sin, as he increases all manner of sin above measure. And he is, too, properly styled, the son of perdition, as he has caused the death of numberless multitudes, both of his opposers and followers, destroyed innumerable souls, and will himself perish everlastingly. He it is that opposeth himself to the emperor, once his rightful sovereign; and that exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped – Commanding angels, and putting kings under his feet, both of whom are called gods in scripture; claiming the highest power, the highest honour; suffering himself, not once only, to be styled God or vice-God. Indeed no less is implied in his ordinary title, “Most Holy Lord,” or, “Most Holy Father.” So that he sitteth – Enthroned. In the temple of God – Mentioned Rev. xi, 1. Declaring himself that he is God – Claiming the prerogatives which belong to God alone.” (John Wesley, Explanatory Notes Upon The New Testament, p.216)
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Charles Spurgeon (1834 – 1892) *Not technically a Reformer
“It is the bounden duty of every Christian to pray against Antichrist, and as to what Antichrist is no sane man ought to raise a question. If it be not the popery in the Church of Rome there is nothing in the world that can be called by that name. If there were to be issued a hue and cry for Antichrist, we should certainly take up this church on suspicion, and it would certainly not be let loose again, for it so exactly answers the description.”
“Popery is contrary to Christ’s Gospel, and is the Antichrist, and we ought to pray against it. It should be the daily prayer of every believer that Antichrist might be hurled like a millstone into the flood and for Christ, because it wounds Christ, because it robs Christ of His glory, because it puts sacramental efficacy in the place of His atonement, and lifts a piece of bread into the place of the Saviour, and a few drops of water into the place of the Holy Ghost, and puts a mere fallible man like ourselves up as the vicar of Christ on earth; if we pray against it, because it is against Him, we shall love the persons though we hate their errors: we shall love their souls though we loath and detest their dogmas, and so the breath of our prayers will be sweetened, because we turn our faces towards Christ when we pray.” (Michael de Semlyen, All Roads Lead to Rome)
It’s sad you have such hatred for your fellow Christians. Satan is laughing at you.
CC
____It’s sad you have such hatred for your fellow Christians. Satan is laughing at you.
CC___
I don’t hate anyone. I’m quoting what Protestant Reformers believed after studying the scriptures. It’s not personal. The Bible warns us clearly about a vast counterfeit system of religion that is a mammoth deception and God is calling HIS PEOPLE, that’s YOU , HIS PEOPLE......there are HIS People in this massive system of religion who he is warning. Because he’s going to settle score with her. Untold millions of innocents she put to death.
Have you ever contemplated that? No other spiritual power fits the description that is why these Protestant Reformers wrote these things.
If I hated you......I wouldn’t warn you. It’s like saying Noah hated who he was trying to warn.
There is a worldwide religion that is insidiously taking over and more reflects the horrors of Revelation. This one has actual beheadings and second class citizenship for those who resist.
Your fellow Christians aren’t the problem.
Catholic hatred has taken on a fever pitch at FR.
It’s sad you have such hatred for your fellow Christians.
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In centuries past, the behavior of the popes well deserved whatever censure came their way. They were fat decadent grasping mercenary murderous ignorant killers.
Sadly, once again ignore the teaching from Christ Himself..... WHY did Christ go up into the mountain after fasting 40 days and let the devil beg Christ to bend a knee to him .... seriously, the mass of Christianity including the majority of protestants are dumber than dumb on who the literal ‘instead - of - Jesus’ is. No flesh physical man is going to play Jesus... Revelation 12
Saturday worshipers ignore that Paul penned that Christ became our Sabbath ... No different than Christ telling the holy rollers of His day that He was the temple...
Wake up before you bend a knee to the devil.
____There is a worldwide religion that is insidiously taking over and more reflects the horrors of Revelation. This one has actual beheadings and second class citizenship for those who resist.
Your fellow Christians aren’t the problem.___
But only one spiritual superpower fits Bible Prophecy. Let’s keep our eye on the ball......on scripture. Only one massive spiritual superpower ruled for 1260 years.......oppressed the saints, speaks great blasphemey claiming to be God on earth, to absolve sins, adorned in gold and scarlet/purple. A great “CITY”.....on seven hills.....suffering a deadly wound at the end of her reign in 1798, a deadly wound healed, and thinking herself able to change times and law.....the holy day to the first day......
No other power fits Bible prophecy. She sits in a “holy place” and is the abomination of desolation. It is a counterfeit ...so deceptive as to fool even the elect. Islam wont fool the elect of God, Buddah won’t fool the elect of God, Damian with 666 doesn’t fool the elect of God.
Daniel describes this power coming out of the 4th nation.....that’s ROME for goodess sakes. The little horn of Daniel 7, exceeding great and terrifying.......was Antichus exceedingly great and terrifying more than Pagan Rome?
Of course not..........this is why the Reformers wrote the things above.
These Reformers studied scripture........and so do we. And we stand with them.
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___Sadly, once again ignore the teaching from Christ Himself..... WHY did Christ go up into the mountain after fasting 40 days and let the devil beg Christ to bend a knee to him .... seriously, the mass of Christianity including the majority of protestants are dumber than dumb on who the literal ‘instead - of - Jesus’ is. No flesh physical man is going to play Jesus... Revelation 12
Saturday worshipers ignore that Paul penned that Christ became our Sabbath ... No different than Christ telling the holy rollers of His day that He was the temple...
Wake up before you bend a knee to the devil.___
Uh, these Protestant Reformers above who identified the papacy as Antichrist were not Seventh day Sabbath keepers. They were all Sunday keepers. Sorry bro.
The quotes are from Prominent Protestant Reformers.....not Seventh day Adventists.
___Catholic hatred has taken on a fever pitch at FR.___
A false strawman. Nobody hates Catholics. Drama much.
The Adventists aren’t a protestant denomination.
Mark 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
Christ same as said I have foretold you who the literal 'anti-Christ' is... this is before the crowed in Rome made up their own tradition, calling some flesh man, 'Holy Father', and praying to Mary...
Oh, I am NOT a 'bro'!!!
The quotes are from Prominent Protestant Reformers.....not Seventh day Adventists.
Christ is our Sabbath and He already foretold all things, before one jot or tittle got placed on plant fibers, animal skins or chiseled onto stone... of the so called New Testament.... I have read right here on FR that Catholics wrote the New Testament ... It is very easy to read their errors .... NOT my problem...
Paul was well educated in the Hebrew, and until Christ got his attention directly, Paul was attempting to maintain his religions status quo... Christ picked Paul directly ... any 'flesh man' since, Catholic or otherwise, teaching another Jesus is all on their own.
___The Adventists aren’t a protestant denomination.___
Well, whatever you want to call us, don’t call us late for dinner. But sorry to inform you, we agree with what these Protestant Reformers taught on AntiChrist.
The quotes are from Protestant Reformers. We agree with them. Sounds like you have 2 problems. Us and Protestant Reformers.
I grew up in Adventism. Not Biblically sound.
Let’s stick to the post. Tell me what you think of the Protestant Reformers quoted and why you disagree with them? Also, identify what other religious power fits Bible prophecy when it comes to AntiChrist?
We aren’t talking about the Sabbath or Adventists. The original post is about what Protestants believed about AntiChrist. Do you even know how the Bible describes this power? Specifics of Daniel and Revelation? Thessalonians, etc?
Where did the Sabbath talk come into this subject? Deflection I guess.
___I grew up in Adventism. Not Biblically sound.___
Great, but are the quotes above from the Protestant Reformers Biblically sound?
The overwhelming majority have no clue who the very elect are and what caused anyone to be called the elect… Paul is the perfect example of who is the elect…And it is Paul that explains who the elect are and how and when each were chosen..
It will be Jesus that opens eyes that have been placed in the spirit of slumber….
It does not matter what your so called reformers said.. Because NO flesh man is or will be the anti-Christ.. There is NO flesh man the whole world will whore after.. Anti-Christ is a fraud, just like the 2020 presidential election..
Who was with Christ in the Garden of Eden? Called the tree of the knowledge of good and evil…. Lord have mercy on the dullards playing church!
____It does not matter what your so called reformers said.. Because NO flesh man is or will be the anti-Christ.. There is NO flesh man the whole world will whore after.. Anti-Christ is a fraud, just like the 2020 presidential election..____
Then there’s the Bible description of Antichrist on earth.
2 Thessalonians 2. It’s always better to stick with scripture than our own ideas. Thank you.
The Great Apostasy
2 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of [a]Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of [b]sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits [c]as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
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