[Adventist Caucus] Genesis 2 verse 3: Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

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[vespa300]

Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

[vespa300]

We believe that the Sabbath was instituted in Eden before sin entered, that it was honored of God, set apart by divine appointment, and given to mankind as the perpetual memorial of a finished creation. It was based upon the fact that God Himself had rested from His work of creation, had blessed His Sabbath, or rest day, and had sanctified it, or set it apart for man (Gen. 2:1-3; Mark 2:27). We believe, further, that it was none other than the Son of God Himself, the second person of the eternal Godhead, who was the Creator of Genesis 1:13, and who therefore appointed the original Sabbath (John 1:3; 1 Cor. 8:6; Col. 1:16, 17; Heb. 11:1, 2).

While the Sabbath is enshrined in the very heart of the commandments of God, it must be remembered that Jesus said, "The Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath" (Mark 2:28). In other words, He is its author and its maker. He is its protector. The Sabbath is the "sabbath of the Lord [Jehovah] thy God" (Ex. 20:10).

So beautifully said isn't it? Wow...

[vespa300]

In John we read it was Jesus how MADE all things. And it was Jesus himself who said he MADE the Sabbath for man. It is a gift to us. Divine rest for human restlessness.

John 1 verses 1 to 3:

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Johnny one-note chirps again.
All Law all the time.

"it must be remembered that Jesus said, "The Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath" (Mark 2:28). In other words, He is its author and its maker"

Christ is LORD of the Sabbath - His authority is GREATER than the Sabbath.

Jesus is the Sabbath for every believer.

Adventism is a heresy.

Vespa300 is our resident cultist.

[vespa300]

<<<>>> So beautiful and powerful and compelling this Lord of ours. H creates the earth in six literal days when he could have created it all in one second. He pronounces each day of creation as GOOD. On the sixth day he creates man. But wait.....he's not done creating yet. Jesus said the Sabbath was MADE and it was MADE for man. The last thing this Loving creator made was the 7th day, a gift to us. To set aside a whole day to commune and worship him. The Sabbath is a real problem for atheists isnt' it? And sadly, for the whore of babylon since she , under the influence of the prince of darkness, believed she could change this holy time give to us by a holy God. I"m so glad Jesus made the Sabbath for me. We already have plans for this Sabbath which starts in 2 days. It's a mighty anchor! Amen

[vespa300]

Don’t you just love this statement about Seventh day Adventists and how we view the holy Bible Sabbath?

Quote:

Seventh-day Adventists do not rely upon their Sabbathkeeping as a means of salvation or of winning merit before God. We are saved by grace alone. Hence our Sabbath observance, as also our loyalty to every other command of God, is an expression of our love for our Creator and Redeemer.

End Quote.

We are protestants. Grace alone through faith alone. Sabbath observance is an expression of our Love for our Creator and Redeemer.....Jesus Christ. And his commandments are not burdensome. Wow......love this!

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Seventh-day Adventists do not rely upon their Sabbathkeeping as a means of salvation or of winning merit before God. We are saved by grace alone.

... unless you fail to keep the Sabbath, then that false grace appears and you go to hell bro

[aMorePerfectUnion]

My utmost apologies.

I just noticed you designated this as a caucus thread for Adventists.

I want to respect that designation, so I will no longer post here.

mea culpa

[vespa300]

<<<>> No no, you are welcome to post here all you want. No apology necessary. I encourage any and all to post and I enjoy debate. I have nothing to hide. God bless you!

[vespa300]

>>>>unless you fail to keep the Sabbath, then that false grace appears and you go to hell bro>>>

I fail to keep all of the commandments of God perfectly. I don’t think anyone keeps God’s commandments perfectly. Even Paul said he was the chief of sinners. Jesus said there was none good.....

That being said, I do believe a Christian saved by grace should do his best to obey God. Jesus said if you love me, keep my commandments.

For some unknown mysterious reason that 4th commandment is ether abandoned, changed, abrogated, ignored.........and it’s such a gift.

The Bible promises a blessing to all who honor God’s holy day of rest. I want that blessing.

God bless you brother.

[John S Mosby]

Thank you! SDA is indeed a heresy. The Soybean bakers and hospital scam nepotism artists. See: Florida Hospital system in Orlando area. Colleagues who try to practice surgery, cardiology, neurology constantly have to deal with their bullcrap.

And this vespa rider (really, a vespa Itai go cart with two wheels?) is quite full of themselves about the “spirituality” of it all. Sort of like saying Scientologists are “spiritual”.
When the Lord returns He’s going to have a lot to set correct.
Mormons gods on Earth, too— same kind of $$$ machine bull.

[Seven_0]

But wait.....he's not done creating yet. Jesus said the Sabbath was MADE and it was MADE for man.

Do you think there is a difference between CREATED and MADE? The word created is used only three timed in Genesis 1 and light was neither created nor made.

[vespa300]

>>>Do you think there is a difference between CREATED and MADE? The word created is used only three timed in Genesis 1 and light was neither created nor made.>>>

Well, let’s look at another institution God ordained in Eden. Marriage. Marriage between and male and female.

In scripture, Paul writes a “woman was made for man” 1 Corinthians 11:9.

So we there another institution that was ordained in Eden. Certainly a woman was created, in fact, God took a rib from Adam and created or made her.

So I think the terms are very consistent.

The only 2 institutions that Adam and Eve took with them when they were banished from Eden were the holy seventh day of rest.and marriage between a man and a woman.

One is concerned with faith and loyalty to our Creator and the other is concerned with faith and loyalty to our spouse.

And of course when a couple abandon the weekly holy day of rest and worship......the marriage can be in trouble too.

The holy Seventh day Sabbath is good....good for man and good for families and good for society.

God said to REMEMBER the Sabbath in his moral law and we have forgotten what he said to remember and society, famalies, kids, marriages.....are broke

Thank you.

[vespa300]

>>>And this vespa rider>>>

I never owned a Vespa but those scooters look fun. Never even rode a scooter. I was watching those old American Chopper shows and Vinnie said he liked riding scooter more than choppers.....I think you just turn the throttle and go! Looks like fun.

I raced motocross when I was a kid and my last motorcycle was a Yamaha MT 07. I sold it a couple years ago....too many people on their phones now....too dangerous.

As for Seventh day Adventists, we’re just Protestants , sinners saved by grace....no better than anyone else.

You know, the Seventh day Sabbath isn’t even our most controversial doctrine.....it’s the 2300 day prophecy of Daniel 8:14. The Bible’s greatest prophecy in terms of time.

IT’s just amazing, so deep, so profound, one has to study it for a long time to get it. Comparing Hebrews with Daniel and Revelation and the words like consecration and annointing, and the only 2 times anyone was allowed into the most holy...

Did you know Moses was allowed into the most holy? Yeah...it’s in Numbers....

The Daniel 8:14 prophecy.

Us Adventists....boy do we study the Bible.I guess that’s why we are Adventists..and healthy too!

Thanks bruh.

[John S Mosby]

Sure thing, bruh! Now go boil some soybean shrimp, and nepotize for Jesus.

[RBStealth]

What do the Episcopals and United Church of Christ share with the SDA’a.

They and the SDA’s perform abortion in their hospitals.
And in doing so they take innocent life and violate the 6th commandment “ do not Kill”
but other than that they are pretty good on the 4th commandment.

[vespa300]

>>>>Sure thing, bruh! Now go boil some soybean shrimp, and nepotize for Jesus.>>>>

You reminded me of something kinda funny. About the guy who said......yuk, they eat dogs in South Korea. Another guy said to him...so what I know people who eat pigs in America.

LOL...thank God for the Bible.

[vespa300]

>>>>They and the SDA’s perform abortion in their hospitals.
And in doing so they take innocent life and violate the 6th commandment “ do not Kill”
but other than that they are pretty good on the 4th commandment.>>>

Well, I don’t even know if there are church owned hospitals. I believe Advent Health is not run by the official church.

But I do know the church position on Abortion and that is to protect the Sanctity of the life of the unborn, except in cases of the mother’s health in danger.

Besides, one thing about being a Protestant Adventist. We don’t hold our church organization up to some kind of divine organization. We don’t bow down to the Church President, we don’t confess our sins to the church pastor, in fact, the church structure is “bottom up” ......

We have theological differences among our professors at our Universities, especially related to the writing of Ellen White and the 1844 Sanctuary Doctrine of Daniel 8:14.

That’s a doozy. I have my mind settled on Daniel 8:14 and I have been studying it for decades, all our church positions, Dr. Desmond Ford, Dr. Bill Shea, the Glacier View conference in 1980 when Dr. Ford a Seventh day adventist Bible scholar disagree with the church position on Daniel 8:14.....

And believe it or not...I believe I have found the truth only in the last year thanks to a professor at our Seminary, Andrews University.

It is mind boggling what he found! And what he found maintains the integrity of our traditional position and eliminates the tension between Hebrews and our original position. The key is Paul usage of the word “Consecrate”.....and he uses the the greek word for consecrate a word only used in 2 chapters in all of scripture.......!!! Hebrews and Numbers.

If you want details, let me know...but it’s mindboggling ..there is no longer any tension between Hebrews and Daniel 8:14.....

I suppose only my Seventh day adventists brethren who are reading this even know what I am talking bout....

Thank ya!

[Philsworld]

——>See: Florida Hospital system in Orlando area. Colleagues who try to practice surgery, cardiology, neurology constantly have to deal with their bullcrap.

Exactly what “bullcrap” are you referring to?

[ebb tide]

Well, I don’t even know if there are church owned hospitals.

It's pretty apparent you know very little about your cult:

List of Seventh-day Adventist hospitals

In 2022, the Seventh-day Adventist Church was the largest Protestant health care provider in the world, with 1,000 facilities around the world. The facilities all together have 36,000 beds and 78,000 employees. All together 1.5 million admissions and 20 million outpatient visits.

I can only imagine how many abortions they are performing.

[ebb tide]

Abortion in Adventism

SDA's are a bunch of liars hypocrites.