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[Catholic Caucus] Paprocki defends Saint Michael prayer in Wall Street Journal
Rorate Caeli ^ | October 28, 2024 | Kenneth J. Wolfe

Posted on 10/28/2024 6:11:13 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] Paprocki defends Saint Michael prayer in Wall Street Journal

A retired priest, Rev. Gerald Bednar, in the Diocese of Cleveland -- the former vice rector of the seminary there -- had a letter to the editor published in the Wall Street Journal, taking an opportunity to oppose reciting the Saint Michael prayer after Mass, which is done at nearly all traditional Latin Low Masses, as well as a growing number of novus ordo liturgies in conservative parishes. 


Father Bednar's letter from a few days ago follows. So does one, published in today's paper, from His Excellency Thomas John Paprocki, bishop of the Diocese of Springfield, Illinois.



Our thanks to Bishop Paprocki for a succinct response and defense.


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Wall Street Journal; October 22, 2024


St. Michael Is Out of Place At the End of Catholic Mass


In “Donald Trump Has a Prayer” (Houses of Worship, Oct. 11), Raymond J. de Souza notes the resurgence of reciting the St. Michael prayer after Mass. The Holy See suppressed this practice in 1964 because the prayer interferes with the integrity of the Mass. It ends the liturgy with a private devotion, a petition to a saint, while all of the petitions were concluded much earlier in the liturgy and addressed to God the Father. The end of Mass sends participants out on a positive mission, bidding them to expand God’s Kingdom through evangelization.

St. Michael is known as the captain of the guardian angels and we should, by all means, ask for his help. But believers should accept the Lord’s presence in the Eucharist as their primary protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil—and respond to his call to enhance God’s Kingdom, where the devil has no influence.

Rev. Gerald J. Bednar

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Wall Street Journal; October 28, 2024


St. Michael Disrupts Only the Devil, Not the Liturgy


Rev. Gerald J. Bednar is simply wrong to suggest that reciting the prayer to St. Michael is “out of place at the end of Catholic Mass” (Letters, Oct. 22). He mistakenly says that it “ends the liturgy with a private devotion.” The liturgy ends when the celebrant says, “Go forth, the Mass is ended,” and the people reply, “Thanks be to God.” The prayer, then, is recited after Mass, which the priest and people are free to do. It isn’t a private devotion when prayed publicly.

The end of Mass sends participants out on a positive mission, and while Rev. Bednar is correct in saying that the devil has no influence in God’s Kingdom, we aren’t there yet. Doing so together doesn’t hurt, and we pray it will help to invoke the intercession of St. Michael to defend us in our spiritual battles.

Bishop Thomas John Paprocki



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Theology
KEYWORDS: frankenchurch; frankenpriest; geraldbednar; paprocki; stmichael
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1 posted on 10/28/2024 6:11:13 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...

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2 posted on 10/28/2024 6:11:55 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide

At the behest of our Pastor, our parish says the St. Michael the Archangel prayer after every Mass. I say it every night with my usual bedtime prayers. I also say it during the day when I have a situation that I think about, where I think it could help. That prayer helps me. Every day. It is very powerful.


3 posted on 10/28/2024 6:17:16 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: ebb tide

I live in a city with 3 catholic churches. One church is ‘traditional’, one is more ‘modern’, and one is on the university campus. Only the one on the university campus ends mass with the Prayer to St Michael the Archangel.


4 posted on 10/28/2024 6:18:59 PM PDT by posterchild
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The Holy See suppressed this practice in 1964 because the prayer interferes with the integrity of the Mass.

VC II concluded a year later, in 1965. Connect the dots.

5 posted on 10/28/2024 6:23:02 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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To: posterchild

Interesting how you don’t capitalize “Catholic” or “Mass”.


6 posted on 10/28/2024 6:26:34 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: steve86

sorry mother superior, no slight intended.


7 posted on 10/28/2024 6:32:32 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: ebb tide

Weekday masses at our parish include the St Michael prayer. Our pastor leaves and then the lay people say it. The young associate from Africa, however, says it with the congregation before he leaves.
I understand from Relevant Radio that the pastor has it right, because it really is optional and people need to feel they can go ahead and leave if they like because mass is really over.
But on weekdays, the congregation is more likely to want to stay anyway so the associate’s habit is not really inconveniencing anyone.


8 posted on 10/28/2024 6:44:53 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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Many of the parishes in the diocese where I live pray this prayer after the mass is over. I pray it everyday; in the morning and after my rosary. And I include it on my daily devotional thread here on FR:

My Catholic Life! devotional thread


9 posted on 10/28/2024 6:46:44 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: steve86; posterchild
Interesting how you don’t capitalize “Catholic” or “Mass”.

Not so interesting if he has to deal with a telephone touchscreen. This is a free-flowing computerized bulletin board, not a formal publication subject to style guides.
10 posted on 10/28/2024 6:47:05 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: married21

Traditionally, the St Michael Prayer is prayed, together with the priest on his knees before the altar, after all Low Masses. It is not prayed after High Masses.

I don’t consider Relevant Radio to be relevant to me.

N.B. The Last Gospel, also prayed after Mass, was also eliminated in 1964.


11 posted on 10/28/2024 7:19:48 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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To: married21
But on weekdays, the congregation is more likely to want to stay anyway so the associate’s habit is not really inconveniencing anyone.

P.S. I've never felt inconvenienced by praying after Mass, whether it be the St. Michael Prayer or Benediction.

12 posted on 10/28/2024 7:29:18 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I use Smartphone touchscreen exclusively and utilize punctuation and case extensively.


13 posted on 10/28/2024 8:29:52 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: steve86
I use Smartphone touchscreen exclusively and utilize punctuation and case extensively.

Great! But some people have small phones (e.g. original iPhone SE) and/or fat fingers. Some just aren't as good at it. Smartphone typing is still a clunky system compared to a real keyboard.
14 posted on 10/28/2024 8:52:28 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Dr. Sivana

I agree but I have become so accustomed to phones (various cheap Androids) that it feels positively weird to sit down with an actual keyboard and monitor. Like being in an IMAX theater or something. My home desktop is banished as a security camera server now and the chair in front of it is accumulating dust.


15 posted on 10/28/2024 9:39:24 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: steve86

I LOVE my 43” screen and full sized clicky non-membrane keyboard. I love being able to back up and entire terabyte to a flash drive without slowing down anything else. The phone is great when I am out and about, but my first IT love is a full tower computer with terabytes of storage, 32 GB of RAM memory, and a good Blu-Ray/DVD/CD burner.


16 posted on 10/28/2024 9:47:18 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Dr. Sivana

I am actually putting together a gaming system mainly for flight simulators so will have to get used to the big screen again. Accidentally ordered RAM for it twice so it will have 64GB Of DDR4.


17 posted on 10/28/2024 10:01:41 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: steve86

I pray for the sad priest. Saint Michael, protect him from harm. Padre Pio, cheer him up you secretly hikarious guy! And take St Theres with you, crack that man up!!!!

All in the name and honor of Jesus Christ!


18 posted on 10/28/2024 11:09:20 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: ebb tide

Absolutely. Who would want that prayer suppressed? Only the devil and his minions. Bugnini was back in Rome at this point, creating his counterfeit liturgy.


19 posted on 10/28/2024 11:54:31 PM PDT by Trump_Triumphant (“They recognized Him in the breaking of the Bread”)
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To: ebb tide

The Jesuit-educated activist attorney-priest Bednar also hates the Gospel of John, kneeling for Communion, the Eucharistic revival. . .but he loves Amoris Laetitia, Islam, and speaking to homosexual-friendly denominations like the Painesville, OH First Congregational United Church of Christ.


20 posted on 10/29/2024 1:17:20 AM PDT by Fedora
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