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8 humanistic errors that crept into the modern church
The Christian Post ^ | 9/22/24 | Joseph Mattera

Posted on 09/24/2024 3:35:02 PM PDT by Faith Presses On

In my opinion, humanistic values frame much of the teaching and theology of the contemporary church. By humanism, I mean anything people refer to as self-empowering that does not originate from the Scriptures’ worldview or depend upon our identification with the cross of Christ for existence and essence. It is also any concept that glorifies the self instead of glorifying God.

1. You could do anything you dream you can do

I remember hearing many people say that they can do anything they desire or dream to do. Some even quote the Scripture (out of context, of course!) in Philippians 4:13, “I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength,” regarding their success in fulfilling their dreams. However, despite all this wishful thinking, we cannot be anything we desire, and we cannot make something happen merely because we dream about it.

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1 posted on 09/24/2024 3:35:02 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Faith Presses On

Heck, everyone gets their own truth now.


2 posted on 09/24/2024 3:41:12 PM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: Sarcazmo; Faith Presses On

The idiocy of Hollywood movies.

‘Listen to your heart’

‘Follow your heart’

‘The heart wants what the heart wants’

Your heart will lie to you every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Emotions are the bane of our existence. The feminization of our culture thanks to the Democrats and Hollywood has raised feelings over rationality.

Selfish desires over love of God.


3 posted on 09/24/2024 3:49:13 PM PDT by Pontiac (esse welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Sarcazmo

And it’s not from God.


4 posted on 09/24/2024 3:52:58 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: No name given

Nope, it sure can’t be.

Frustrating that more people can’t recognize this. It’s not exactly rocket science.


5 posted on 09/24/2024 3:54:32 PM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: Faith Presses On

Even singing songs like a can’t live without this person,is not biblical. We only need Jesus.
We are going to have Division when we follow Jesus. If we don’t love Jesus more than our spouse kids family friends we don’t deserve the kingdom of heaven


6 posted on 09/24/2024 3:59:45 PM PDT by factmart ( )
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To: Faith Presses On

Even singing songs like a can’t live without this person,is not biblical. We only need Jesus.
We are going to have Division when we follow Jesus. If we don’t love Jesus more than our spouse kids family friends we don’t deserve the kingdom of heaven.


7 posted on 09/24/2024 4:00:47 PM PDT by factmart ( )
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To: Pontiac

Don’t forget the Star Wars silliness.

“Reach out with your feeeeeeelings...”


8 posted on 09/24/2024 4:02:39 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Pontiac

“Emotions are the bane of our existence. The feminization of our culture thanks to the Democrats and Hollywood has raised feelings over rationality.”

Emotions certainly can be, if not led by the Truth, Christ.

But on “he feminization of our culture thanks to the Democrats and Hollywood,” while there’s a lot of truth to that, the American church itself has also been a big part of it.

Democrats and Hollywood might have pushed many of the temptations, but the church largely ended up giving in to them, too. Entertainment has grown to mean a lot more than evangelism to the church, and that was a choice. It’s been easy just to blame “Democrats and Hollywood,” though.

It’s also often been easier to blame women and liberals and feminization, but the church has also just gone along with a lot of things. There are many things more difficult for women than men, even that women often need men for their greater ability to take stress (as psychology has shown), to deal with men outside the family (social competitiveness which is more difficult for women) and to deal with a lot of physical problems (like furniture moving, repairs), yet the church has largely gone along with the idea that women are equals, and not “the weaker sex.”

While there shouldn’t be women pastors, then, it’s not entirely their fault, as women in society are bearing a lot of things we aren’t as equipped for. That’s not entirely the church’s fault, except that it falls for a lot of the humanistic/natural deceptions out there, too.

And too, women who respect the Bible — and there are many more than in the early days of Christianity — usually do have more Biblical views than most men who aren’t Christian. So it’s not entirely about male and female.


9 posted on 09/24/2024 4:05:20 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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You could do anything you dream you can do

The word of faith movement teaches this kind of stuff. Just speak what you want and it becomes reality.

10 posted on 09/24/2024 4:11:40 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: Faith Presses On

I am in no way belittling women or their place in a Christian family and in a Christian society.

Women make men fathers, women get men to control their anger and make men sociable. When women make men fathers, it is fathers that make sons respect women and make future fathers control their feelings.

Women are just as important to society but it is men that must lead because it is men that make decisions based on rationality rather than sentiment.

But, our society has elevated the Feminine above the Masculine, feelings above rational thought.

Look at college graduation rates. Women graduate in much higher numbers than men.

Welfare roles are huge and growing because we have to be kind to the lazy and useless. We have to allow the dregs of other dysfunctional societies in to our country because they just looking for a better life.

A masculine society would not be so charitable because men are more rational and know that a country’s economy can only support a small welfare class without sapping the health of the economy. There is only so much charity you can afford.

Women are much more altruistic than men.

If you feminize society you lose the rationality that makes capitalism work.


11 posted on 09/24/2024 4:31:28 PM PDT by Pontiac (esse welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Faith Presses On

I can get behind all of them (as things we shouldn’t be doing/believing) except for cutting toxic people out of our lives. If someone is being abused, they should feel okay cutting the abuser out. Maybe this article wasn’t thinking about abusers when it talked about toxic people, but it didn’t clarify that.


12 posted on 09/24/2024 4:42:57 PM PDT by TauntedTiger (If voting mattered, they wouldn't let us do it. Mark Twain)
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To: Faith Presses On

One distressing thing is that among the comments, about half have no idea what Christianity is about.. IDK who this newspaper’s audience is, but it’s a strange bunch.


13 posted on 09/24/2024 6:01:10 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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To: metmom; Faith Presses On
Concerning Error #1

: You could do anything you dream you can do

Echoing "Invictus" (click here) as promoted in many a baccalaureate graduation ceremony mesage:

"I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul."

(William Ernst Henley, 1875)
Mind over matter.

Been around for a century and a half, certainly one of the most popular fallacious humanistic superstitions, adored by John Dewey, herald of the humanism infection which has crippled modern education, rejecting the Jesus Who upon resurrection gained victory over death through His supernatural essence and His authority in both temporal and spiritual spheres.

By His delegated authority I say. "Begone, Satan. Begone Darwin. Begone, Popi Vaticani. Begone Karl Marx, John Dewey, Benjamin Spock, all you dead erstwhile con artists.
Come, Lord Jesus Messiah, Maranatha! Creator and Master of the Universe, Captain of the saving of us into everlasting Life and Truth."

Christ is the Victor, imparting indestructible unending existence for all who are completely persuaded of His Existence and Power, purchased with His Incorruptible Blood.

14 posted on 09/25/2024 2:05:28 AM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live; the joy of living: to teach. Fiat Lux!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I’ve noticed that in the comments. There seem to be a lot of non-Christians commenting there.


15 posted on 09/25/2024 2:37:03 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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To: imardmd1

Amen to that!


16 posted on 09/25/2024 4:20:49 PM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure:for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: Pontiac

I believe that it’s true that women tend to think more relationally than men, or verbally, and men tend to think more of the mechanics of things, as in mathematically. But both exist in both, and there’s a lot of variation among individuals. Faith also plays a great role. I was already, as a woman, quite mathematically inclined, but having my faith grown considerably by the Lord, including by reading the Bible, gave me a much better understanding of spiritual truth overall, and how the parts of this life are meant to fit together.

“Women are just as important to society but it is men that must lead because it is men that make decisions based on rationality rather than sentiment.”

That’s certainly true in part, what I believe means much more is how much a society takes God’s direction and correction. Most societies have been male-dominated, and they haven’t been pleasing to God and have worshipped idols.

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Three stories on differences between men and women, including one story on a three question “IQ test”:

“It seems like men and women diverge quite a bit when it comes to answering this short IQ test: men scored “significantly higher” than women.”

https://www.livescience.com/10707-study-women-sensitive-stress.html

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/jul/11/women-know-less-politics-than-men-worldwide

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/iq-test-3-question-crt-002756027.html


17 posted on 09/26/2024 2:44:53 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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>> Three stories on differences between men and women, including one story on a three question “IQ test” <<

FPO, in a spirit of humbleness, this is a (erroneous) humanistic approach toward answering an inherently spiritual rhetoric question.

Situation:

On the night before His crucifixion, The God-in-the Flesh Jesus commanded His chosen spiritual-leaders-in-training to attend the observance of the last and final memorial supper of the Mosaic Covenant, which also became the first memorial supper that initiated the Church-manifested Grace Covenant unilaterally issued from God to mankind, memorialized in its often remembrance.

Test question:

How many of the females showing total allegiance to Him were reported as being present at that ritual meal?

Your answer:

Not forgetting that many women blessed the Incarnate Messiah and were blessed by Him from His conception until His Cross-death; ones that included not only His surrogate mother and her cousin, but also those from Anna the prophetess (Lk. 2:36-39) until the woman who poured costly spikenard on His head (Mk. 14:3-9; Mary Magdalene?).

Nevertheless, were any of them included in His delegation of His authority to the church-forming evangelical leaders and teachers to whom He assigned oversight of Church Age duties, as He met with them on a mountain in Galilee (Mt. 28:16-20)(rhetorical, demanding the answer "No")?

Women are given roles as examples in the ekklesia, the local assembly, but not as bishops, elders, or pastors of it in the New Testament writings. Eh? Titus 2:3-5 gives one very essential example of their feminine role an influence not typical of gender differentiation.

Appointe as ministers of The Faith to the children she has borne, yes! Superior in spiritual leadership or teaching of the Apostles' doctrines to men and husbands is not mentioned anywhere, a role not assigned as a function to females in faithful assemblies; only in those which are not, IIRC.

Respectfully written,

imardmd1 .

18 posted on 09/26/2024 7:31:42 PM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live; the joy of living: to teach. Fiat Lux!)
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To: Pontiac

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4XkZq4KuoCI


19 posted on 09/26/2024 7:36:44 PM PDT by MarDav
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Women make men fathers, women get men to control their anger and make men sociable. When women make men fathers, it is fathers that make sons respect women and make future fathers control their feelings.

Which makes it sound like all men's failings are being laid at the feet of women, as if it's women's responsibility to make men what they should be.

It's not. That is blame shifting and men abdicating their responsibility.

Men are where they are today because men didn't man up and do their job.

Man is the head of the marriage and the family, not women, and God holds MEN accountable for how the family operates and how they conduct themselves. If that doesn't happen, it's not the woman's fault, it's the man's.

*That woman You gave men.....* didn't work on God the first time, and it's not going to work for any man since then.

20 posted on 09/26/2024 10:54:04 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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