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‘Is the Pope a Catholic?’ The rhetorical question that’s losing axiomatic power
Catholic Herald ^ | September 20, 2024 | Gavin Ashenden

Posted on 09/22/2024 7:38:52 PM PDT by ebb tide

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Perhaps the question should but not “Is Francis the Pope” but “why doesn’t he want to act and speak as the Pope?”
1 posted on 09/22/2024 7:38:52 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 09/22/2024 7:39:48 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide
Not sure, From what I understand from what St. Malachy said we already had the last real Poop.

You never know.

3 posted on 09/22/2024 7:49:52 PM PDT by algore
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To: algore

Well, we’ve been assured here by Catholic FReepers many times on the RF that *Once a Catholic, always a Catholic* and *Once a priest, always a priest.*

That doesn’t leave wiggle room to disown ones you disagree with.


4 posted on 09/22/2024 10:28:07 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: ebb tide

I was hoping he would be gone by now.


5 posted on 09/22/2024 10:33:33 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Maris Crane

Where were you when we needed you most, you imposter.


6 posted on 09/22/2024 10:35:10 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Maris Crane

The Pope is not a Catholic, he is a Jesuit


7 posted on 09/22/2024 10:36:24 PM PDT by Kozy (new age haruspex; "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.")
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To: metmom

“Well, we’ve been assured here by Catholic FReepers many times on the RF that *Once a Catholic, always a Catholic”

That means once a baptized Catholic, always a baptized Catholic, nothing more. You can’t remove the baptism.


8 posted on 09/22/2024 10:36:27 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: Kozy

You know what? That is, at this moment, the TRUTH.


9 posted on 09/22/2024 10:46:41 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: ebb tide

The main doctrine of the whole Christian Church (not just Catholic) is that Christ is the only way to salvation.
The apostles and martyrs went to death instead bowing to pagan gods.

Francis is the first pope to bow to false gods.

Pope Marcellinus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Marcellinus

was denied sainthood because he was rumored to bow under duress to pagan gods during Diocletian persecution.
Francis needs the some treatment for apostates, a period of repentance and exclusion from Church.


10 posted on 09/23/2024 12:34:25 AM PDT by AZJeep
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*Once a Catholic, always a Catholic”
_____________________

That would make Hitler a Catholic!


11 posted on 09/23/2024 12:36:45 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: ebb tide

Whence more peoples’ eyes finally open to the reality before us, it WILL then be a more rhetorical repartee to rather ask, “Can a non-catholic be pope?”


12 posted on 09/23/2024 2:16:47 AM PDT by Repent and Believe (Heaven or hell; We'll each spend eternity in one or the other.)
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To: ebb tide

The current Pope is a satanic leftist.


13 posted on 09/23/2024 2:54:55 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: ebb tide

‘Is the Pope a Catholic?’ Is the Pope Christian?


No and no.


14 posted on 09/23/2024 3:43:59 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ebb tide
Since the bears are no longer restricted to the woods...

Charmin

Next time the white smoke comes out of the chimney make sure it isn't from hashish.

15 posted on 09/23/2024 6:41:06 AM PDT by MikelTackNailer (If you merely LOOK the fool people won't take you seriously.)
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To: AZJeep

My God is a God of love and peace, most other Gods sow fear and hatred among their adherents.


16 posted on 09/23/2024 7:00:53 AM PDT by ABN 505 (Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. ~Archbishop Fulton John)
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To: ebb tide

One needs to understand the historic background and training of the current Pope. First he was a Jesuit. They were a military, intellectual, and missionary order of the Catholic church. Often, they were not seen as fitting into the Church hierarchy.

Second, he choose the name Francis for a reason. If you go back in history St. Francis became close with and worked to befriend and teach Christianity to the Ottoman Emperor. This Pope has been trying to build bridges with the Muslim faith. He may be foolish in trying, but his choice of name indicated from the beginning one of his goals.


17 posted on 09/23/2024 7:12:06 AM PDT by Robert357
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If you go back in history St. Francis became close with and worked to befriend and teach Christianity to the Ottoman Emperor.

When exactly has Bergoglio tried to teach Christianity to any non-Catholic?

18 posted on 09/23/2024 7:20:32 AM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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St. Francis and the Sultan: What really happened in 1219 in Catholic Muslim dialogue?
19 posted on 09/23/2024 7:46:44 AM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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To: Robert357
They were a military, intellectual, and missionary order of the Catholic church.

There is absolutely nothing "militant, intellectual, or missionary" about today's Jesuits.

They are pansies, morally and theologically ignorant, and anti-missionaries.

20 posted on 09/23/2024 8:23:48 AM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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