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[Catholic Caucus] ‘Transgender’ males in conservative Indonesia praise Pope Francis for pro-LGBT ‘message’
LifeSite News ^ | September 6, 2024 | Peter Martin

Posted on 09/07/2024 9:45:01 AM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] ‘Transgender’ males in conservative Indonesia praise Pope Francis for pro-LGBT ‘message’

Pope Francis this week visited the Archdiocese of Jakarta, which in recent years has been ‘welcoming’ and baptizing gender-confused men who in many cases do not appear to have converted from their transgender lifestyles.

Pope Francis is being praised for his pro-LGBT “inclusiveness” by transgender activists in Indonesia, where the archdiocese of the country’s capital city has been “welcoming” unrepentant gender-confused individuals into parishes in recent years, according to The New York Times.

The Times reported that Francis, who is visiting the conservative, largely Muslim nation during a tour of southeast Asia, “has become a personal hero” to men in Indonesia who claim to be “transgender” because of “his messages of tolerance and openness toward” the so-called “L.G.B.T.Q. community.”

“When we got Francis as the pope, I realized that God was really listening,” said a person identified as “Mami Yuli,” who the Times referred to as “the leader of the trans community” in Jakarta, the capital of Indonesia.

Yuli, apparently a man who identifies as a woman, has “lobbied the church” in favor of pro-LGBT causes, according to the article.

“This is not the pope but God himself visiting us,” he said. 

Yuli added that “there is never someone as high profile who sends a message of inclusiveness” regarding homosexual and gender-confused individuals in Indonesia, where the public is overwhelmingly opposed to sodomy and transgenderism.

Pope Francis has repeatedly contradicted Catholic teaching on homosexuality, referred to gender-confused men as females, and endorsed LGBT activists and pro-LGBT events around the world throughout his papacy.

READ: Pope Francis again welcomes group of ‘transgender’ males, homosexuals at Vatican audience

In Indonesia, the Archdiocese of Jakarta has taken an increasingly liberal approach to transgenderism, following Francis, according to The New York Times.

“Pope Francis has called for us several times not to judge them,” Rev. Agustinus Kelik Pribadi of St. Stephen Catholic Church in South Jakarta, told the paper, pointing to Pope Francis’ notorious “Who am I to judge?” remarks about homosexual priests in 2013. “We must listen,” Pribadi said. 

The Jakarta archdiocese’s relationship with the so-called “trans women community,” some of whom engage in prostitution, is due to Cardinal Ignatius Suharyo Hardjoatmodjo, the archbishop of Jakarta, priests told the Times.

Suharyo, who was made a cardinal by Pope Francis in 2019, has instructed priests to “welcome” individuals who identify as “transgender” into Catholic parishes to “respect human dignity,” according to the report.

“Dozens” of gender-confused males who were not raised Catholic “have been baptized in Jakarta in recent years,” the article related.

But while the men may have received baptism, in many cases, they appear to continue identifying as “transgender” and do not seem to have renounced transgenderism, which Catholic doctrine condemns.

“When I go to the church, nobody judges me,” a gender-confused individual identified as “Ms. Gondhoadjmodjo” told the Times, which added that Gondhoadjmodjo was baptized in 2022 and “started volunteering as a teacher thanks to the church.”

Over 50 individuals described as “trans women” attend a “prayer meeting” at the Jakarta cathedral once a month, Rev. Adrianus Suyadi, a Jesuit priest at the cathedral, said. 

The report also cited a “trans woman” identified as “Mika Horulean” who attends “Catholic trans-counseling meetings, in which participants discuss their experiences, on Zoom every Friday.”

Father Suyadi told The New York Times that he proposed to the local bishops’ conference to have Yuli, the transgender activist, meet with Pope Francis, though the proposal was not accepted.

The article makes no mention of gender-confused individuals being called to conversion from their transgender lifestyles.

Catholic teaching rejects transgender ideology, affirms the reality of the two sexes, and condemns bodily mutilation, such as “gender transition” procedures, as “against the moral law.”

The Church also teaches, in accordance with Sacred Scripture and the constant Tradition of the Church, that homosexual activity is mortally sinful and a “sin that cries to heaven” and that the homosexual inclination is “objectively disordered.”

Repentance of mortal sin is necessary for salvation, as the Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches.

Mortal sin “results in the loss of charity and the privation of sanctifying grace that is, of the state of grace,” the Catechism states. “If it is not redeemed by repentance and God’s forgiveness, it causes exclusion from Christ’s kingdom and the eternal death of hell,” it continues. 


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: frankenchurch; homos; morepopenews; perverts

1 posted on 09/07/2024 9:45:01 AM PDT by ebb tide
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Ping


2 posted on 09/07/2024 9:45:32 AM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide

"Who am I to judge?"


3 posted on 09/07/2024 10:00:26 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: ebb tide

The Cardinals chose poorly


4 posted on 09/07/2024 10:08:27 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: ebb tide

This obvious evil is NOT the Pope. Pope Benedict did not offer a valid resignation, Pope is not a “shared” position, and this evil was not validly elected. He was placed, much like so many of the world “leaders” now. Evil is currently squatting in the seat, defiling all that it touches.


6 posted on 09/07/2024 10:17:04 AM PDT by GrumpyOldGuy
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To: ebb tide; lightman

.....GENESIS 1:27
KJ21
So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them......

“Transgenders”, “nonbinaries” and “gays” think that they are smarter than God, or that there is no God and they created themselves. Wrong!


7 posted on 09/07/2024 10:18:53 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: ebb tide

Indonesia? The trannies will now be rounded up and eliminated.


8 posted on 09/07/2024 10:23:12 AM PDT by bwest
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To: GrumpyOldGuy

The theory that Francis is actually some kind of Rothschild, CIA, WEF agent sent to destroy the Church from within is actually gaining more credence in my brain....


9 posted on 09/07/2024 10:39:50 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: ebb tide

Francis (the talking mule) owes his creator an explanation as to what he has done to Catholicism.

He is the Biden of Christianity.


10 posted on 09/07/2024 2:34:42 PM PDT by ABStrauss (I miss Rlush!)
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In Indonesia, Transgender Women Celebrate Pope Francis’ Visit and Catholic Support

“The group of trans women in South Jakarta were putting on their Sunday best. They wore feathers, silk, glitter and long eyelashes. Every one of them draped a rosary around their neck.

“‘Pope Francis deserves our best outfit,’ Elvi Gondhoadjmodjo said, as the group got ready to catch a glimpse of the pope on Thursday during his visit to Indonesia.

“For many trans women living on the fringes of society here, the Catholic Church is a safe haven, and Pope Francis, with his messages of tolerance and openness toward the L.G.B.T.Q. community, has become a personal hero. They were excited by his four-day visit.

“‘When we got Francis as the Pope, I realized that God was really listening,’ said Mami Yuli, the leader of the community and a devout Catholic who has a likeness of a rosary tattooed on her chest. ‘This is not the Pope but God himself visiting us.'”

11 posted on 09/07/2024 7:35:59 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide

I wish Our Lord would act. How much longer can this go on?


12 posted on 09/08/2024 4:51:59 AM PDT by Trump_Triumphant (“They recognized Him in the breaking of the Bread”)
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He could be a speechwriter for Kamala!

13 posted on 09/08/2024 10:25:29 AM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide

Sounds like Francis is looking for a hookup in Jakarta.


14 posted on 09/09/2024 6:10:53 AM PDT by Zathras
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