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[Catholic Caucus] Young Catholics aren’t ‘schismatic’ for preferring the Latin Mass to sappy Novus Ordo Masses
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| August 5, 2024
| Peter Stein
Posted on 08/05/2024 1:34:49 PM PDT by ebb tide
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posted on
08/05/2024 1:34:50 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...
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posted on
08/05/2024 1:35:20 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
To: ebb tide
Marty Haugen and Dan Schutte found in the Gather Hymnal GAAAaaaaaahhhhh!!!
I hated that drivel back in the 1970s when it was new.
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posted on
08/05/2024 1:37:43 PM PDT
by
NorthMountain
(... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
To: ebb tide
their aesthetic tastes differ from that of the Conciliar generations. One should not assume that the "conciliar generations" liked the "Glory and Praise" songbook. Back in the 1970s when this wretched "music" was unleashed upon an innocent and unsuspecting world, I and other youngish men and teenage boys made (often bawdy) parodies of them. Doing such with traditional hymns was unthinkable. You just don't parody Tantum ergo ....
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posted on
08/05/2024 1:42:58 PM PDT
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NorthMountain
(... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
To: NorthMountain
I and other youngish men and teenage boys made (often bawdy) parodies of them.
I went to Christendom, and we did that sometimes. One I still remember:
God is in the son that arms the earth
God is in a mother giving birth
God is in the birds that sing
God is in Everything!
Added verses by J.B. and C.G.:
God is in a Far East Buddhist Temple
God is in a young teenager's pimple
God is in Hell, St. Augustine says so
God is in Edgar Allen Poe
One of the writers is now a monastery priest at Le Barroux
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posted on
08/05/2024 1:52:48 PM PDT
by
Dr. Sivana
("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
To: Dr. Sivana
That should be warms the earth, not “arms the earth”.
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posted on
08/05/2024 1:53:21 PM PDT
by
Dr. Sivana
("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
To: Dr. Sivana
Dr. Hittinger described the song as pure panentheism, which is, of course, a heresy.
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posted on
08/05/2024 1:54:06 PM PDT
by
Dr. Sivana
("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
To: ebb tide
I’ve heard it said that the Catholic Church may be the only institution where 70- and 80-year-olds tell people in their 20s to “get with the times.” LOL. So true … and an optimistic harbinger of things to come in the Church.
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posted on
08/05/2024 1:54:42 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
(“Ain't it funny how the night moves … when you just don't seem to have as much to lose.”)
To: Dr. Sivana
God is in Edgar Allen Poe Nevermore.
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posted on
08/05/2024 1:59:51 PM PDT
by
NorthMountain
(... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
To: NorthMountain
Marty Haugen is not and was never a Catholic.
Dan Schutte left the Jesuit Order in 1986 and his most famous song, “Here I am, Lord” is the anthem for the gay rights movement within the Catholic Church.
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posted on
08/05/2024 4:34:50 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
To: ebb tide
Dan Schutte left the Jesuit Order in 1986 and his most famous song, “Here I am, Lord” is the anthem for the gay rights movement within the Catholic Church.
The author of "Why Catholics Can't Sing" points out that the refrain of "Here I am, Lord" (1979) has the same tune as the Brady Bunch theme.
Try it:
Here I am, Lord,
Is it I, Lord?
Who was bringing up three very lovely girls.
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posted on
08/05/2024 5:42:46 PM PDT
by
Dr. Sivana
("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
To: ebb tide
The New Mass and all of the “art” and “music” that comes from it is so faggy.
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posted on
08/05/2024 5:54:36 PM PDT
by
Trump_Triumphant
("They recognized Him in the breaking of the Bread”)
To: ebb tide
And then there’s David “Pedo” Haas ...
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posted on
08/05/2024 6:03:45 PM PDT
by
NorthMountain
(... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
To: Dr. Sivana
A huge fraction of the Haugen/Haas/Schutte/StLJ oeuvre is, musically, show tunes. Imagine the cast of some inane musical singing the thing then striking a pose as it comes to an end.
They’re worse than campfire songs ...
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posted on
08/05/2024 6:25:45 PM PDT
by
NorthMountain
(... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
To: NorthMountain
A huge fraction of the Haugen/Haas/Schutte/StLJ oeuvre is, musically, show tunes.
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posted on
08/05/2024 6:41:35 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
To: ebb tide
I have more respect for Bugs and his friends than for the Schutte/Haugen/Haas mafia ...
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posted on
08/05/2024 7:09:23 PM PDT
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NorthMountain
(... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
To: ebb tide
There should or could be alternatives to the sappy new mass and the old Latin mass. I can imagine a mass in English that retains the dignity of the old Latin mass.
To: Steve_Seattle
I can imagine a mass in English that retains the dignity of the old Latin mass.That's how the first novus ordo masses were originally.
No ad populum, no altar chicks, no Holy Communion in the paw, no lay readers, no eucharistic monsters, etc.
That's when the modernists invented and then invoked their "Spirit of VC II". And they've been doing so ever since.
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posted on
08/05/2024 7:52:26 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
To: Steve_Seattle
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posted on
08/05/2024 8:03:53 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "idealogy" of the modernists.)
To: ebb tide
Ad populum was there originally (in fact, it was there in some places well before the Novus Ordo) in places with freestanding altars. Lay readers were also there from the beginning, and (IIRC) from sometime before that.
(Recall that we didn't go straight from the 1962 TLM to the Novus Ordo; there were several transitional stages beginning in 1964. (Somewhere I have my First Communion missal from 1968; the 1968 Mass was basically the TLM, somewhat simplified, in English. The major change when the NO was introduced the next year was much more simplification / abbreviation, and 4 Eucharistic prayers instead of one.)
The rest of the stuff you mention are all later additions/innovations.
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posted on
08/06/2024 7:01:45 AM PDT
by
Campion
(Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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