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To: Jonty30

> The Bible has made it clear that a Godly marriage can only be between a man and a woman. No matter what you do to justify any other arrangement, it is not a godly marriage.

Presentism.

> You are justifying the unjustifiable.

Prudishness.

Christ wrote the Torah, so what the Torah says is permissible is what Christ would have permitted.

You may have your history dates screwed up. Torah preceded Jesus by ~400 years.

> Christ gave a harm reduction response to the Pharisees. He basically, if you are bound to not obey then this is what you do to create the minimal harm. It does not mean, however, that the minimal harm is God’s ideal for man.

I do not know what you are saying at all with this. It is late in my time zone. You neglected to address most of the points I raised. Therefore I probably cannot help you unless you revisit what i have written before and demonstrate that at least you correctly understand the points that I have made for you. Good luck.


53 posted on 07/11/2024 10:19:33 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: SteveH

Not Presentism. Alwaysism.

No. You are justifying what cannot be justified. God said no, so your disregard to what God has said no to cannot be justified.

Christ is the OT Adonai. He was the Fire at night and Cloud by day. Every time, in the OT, you see the use of the word Lord, in a divine sense, they are talking about the Adonai, the preincarnation of the earthly Christ.

Let’s use a parallelism to try and explain harm reduction. God doesn’t really want us to eat meat, because we are taking lives when we do that. However, God permits it. However, when God permitted it, He told us which meats to eat to prevent harm to us.

He allowed meat to be eaten, but not all meats. Just the least harmful kind.

If a person is not willing to live in a Godly marriage, which is a lifetime commitment, then God has created procedures to be followed in order to cause the minimal harm to the person and society in question.


57 posted on 07/11/2024 10:27:58 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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