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To: Jonty30

> One thing you have to understand is that the Jews allowed the OT to speak for itself.

> If the person in question came to a bad end, it’s because they lived a bad life. The Jews let the results speak for themselves.

> When David became polyamorous, he split Israel into two nations. Judah and Israel.

so are you claiming that every polyamorous family in the OT met with ill fate? i have not gone over it with a fine tooth comb, but unless that is the case (and i am skeptical) then does not your reasoning fall apart? because if the ill fates of each such polyamorous relationship is not specifically documented, does the reasonable reader have justification to presume that a good proportion of those families lived peaceful and productive lives, just like we presume most of the Jews lived peaceful and productive lives in the OT days? I think your logic is (1) presuming the worst and (2) concluding a predetermined universally bad prediction from it.

> Solomon, because of his 700 wives, came to a bad end as well.

Ya well another anecdote. Solomon it may be argued is an outlier, hardly an ordinary guy. He is at the top of the food chain, being a king, so lightning strikes the top of the tallest building. Does not mean all buildings are all evil.

> The OT does not advocate for polyamorous relationships. Quite the opposite, actually.

The OT is alternatively describing life in Israel/Palestine/Judah. There were good farmers as well as bad farmers. Just because some farmers were bad does not imply that all farmers are bad. Just because some shepherds were bad does not imply that all shepherds are bad. I think a very major lesson of the NT is that Paul was a bad tax collector before he became a good evangelist. The OT does not necessarily advocate polyamory but neither does it condemn it, unless we get into good shepherds, bad shepherds existing proves the OT condemns shepherds, good farmers, bad farmers implies that the OT condemns farmers, good fishermen, bad fishermen implies that the OT condemns fishermen, etc.

In short, you may be confused in your faulty logic. I suppose you learn this type of logic in sunday school so maybe it’s not so much your logic as sunday school logic. If so, I would encourage you to unlearn everything you learned in sunday school, read the bible afresh, and come to your own conclusions (in contrast to a sunday school level’s conclusions, or equivalent).


34 posted on 07/11/2024 8:19:21 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: SteveH

Yes. Maybe not in real life, but those individuals in the Bible who were polyamorous met bad ends.

The OT captured the life of the Israelites at that point in time. When they obeyed God, they had nice lives. When they didn’t God had no difficulty in sending them through Hell.

In the real world, the West was at its best when it kept to a Biblical marriage between men and women. However, because we want to spend our time emptying our gonads, God is letting the West fail. If we continue to fail, God will let us disappear.

I’m not the one that is faulty on this point. This is why God does not protect us from consequences.


36 posted on 07/11/2024 8:27:49 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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