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To: Elsie

Perhaps you’re blowing smoke again.

No comment about the topic of this thread, I see.

Just like all the others.


128 posted on 06/06/2024 8:51:45 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide; .45 Long Colt; Apple Pan Dowdy; BDParrish; Big Red Badger; BlueDragon; boatbums; ...
No comment about the topic of this thread, I see.

I will, at least as regards:

Archbishop Lefebvre: “Some dangerous things can easily be seen . . . In the declaration on religious liberty [Dignitatis Humanae], there are some things contrary to what the Popes have taught: it is decided that there can no longer be Catholic States!”
Which, if not meaning simply a predominately Catholic country, but one which is like RC theocracies of old, to the extent of requiring Catholic rulers to exterminate the land from all the "heretics" Rome points out, is not that the NT church and kingdom of Christ operative by it. (Jn. 18:36; 2 Co. 10:4; Eph. 6:12)

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. (John 18:36)

(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) (2 Corinthians 10:4)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Ephesians 6:12)

The NT did not sanction or employ the power of the sword of men to obtain dominion, nor claim coercive jurisdiction to punish members regarding church matters by physical means - which means the civil state is ordained to use regarding moral matters - but its reliance must be that of spiritual means. (2 Corinthians 6:7)

But neither are secular governments being wholly consistent with their charter "for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well" (1 Peter 2:14) in instances when they punish them that do well and praise evildoers.

Nor are they acting consistent with the separation of powers when they grant protected status to persons and groups based upon perverse feelings, while punishing those who refuse assent to such or oppose their deleterious practices.

In any case Christians are to seek to see God's will to be done on earth as it is in Heaven, (Matthew 6:10) and as it will be during the literal 1,000 year reign of the risen Lord Jesus, which reign Catholicism inexcusably denies.

Which culminates with the fulfillment of the oft-repeated prophecy that For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. (1 Corinthians 15:25; Mt 22:44; Mr 12:36; Luke 20:42, 43; Acts 2:34, 35; Heb 1:13)

Which includes unregenerate Catholicism which, along with all false faith systems has overall become as the gates of Hell for vast multitudes, to their horror, save for a small remnant, by the grace of God. What the Bible teaches is that the redeemed are those who have been spiritually born of the Spirit (Jn. 3:2-7) by effectual, penitent, heart-purifying, regenerating faith (Acts 10:43-47; Acts 15:7-9) in the Divine Son of God sent be the Father to be the Savior of the world, (1 Jn. 4:14) who saves sinners by His sinless shed blood, on His account , rendering them "accepted in the Beloved" (Eph. 1:6; Eph. 2:6-9) - not deserved or obtained by any merit of themselves or any church.

For this faith is imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5) rendering one to be considered positionally righteousness, “justified” in God’s sight, and (as a result) this is shown in baptism and following the Lord, (Acts 2:38-47; Jn. 10:27, 28) whom they shall go to be with or His return (Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; Heb. 12:22, 23; 1Cor. 15:51ff'; 1Thess. 4:17) Glory and thanks be to God.

In contrast to those who were never born of the Spirit or who terminally fall away. (Gal. 5:1-4; Heb. 3:12; Heb. 10:25-39)

The main difference on this versus Catholicism is that the latter teaches a gospel of salvation by actually becoming good enough - via the act itself of baptism, and then via sacramentally aided attainment of merit, and finally (normally) expiation and purification thru Purgatory - to actually be with/see God in Heaven.

144 posted on 06/07/2024 4:19:44 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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