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To: Roman_War_Criminal

The Catholic church repudiates Scripture.


3 posted on 05/12/2024 8:06:05 PM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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To: MeganC

Typical FR Catholic hatred.


8 posted on 05/12/2024 8:15:03 PM PDT by bwest
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To: MeganC; Roman_War_Criminal; ebb tide; NYer

When the document does come out, please make the discussion caucus.

I only same this thread just now, and while I see that the FR sniping on non-Caucus threads is still fairly robust, the quality of the sniping and counter-sniping has declined over the years.

MeganC—there are ample examples of “private” apparitions and revelation in the Bible, so to call them non-Biblical is an error that could be refuted in an interesting thread. Unfortunately, most of my co-religionists are incapable of doing so. I should know—I’ve been teaching Scripture to Catholics for two decades. I just finished off a course on St. Paul, and my start students were converts. One raised Baptist and one raised Quebecois.

There used to be Freepers who would engage intelligently on these sorts of subjects, but with some of the Jack Chick types there isn’t much of a point other than educating others. If the idiotic posts are overwhelming in number and aren’t event all that witty engaging in dialogue with an edge becomes rather unrewarding—and pointless as well because no one is likely to follow the dialogue.

Perhaps because this thread is now stale there may be a point in addressing the Biblical examples of private revelation and the problems they pose. I’d probably begin with Samuel to Saul, but there are other examples.


215 posted on 05/14/2024 2:26:52 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( )
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To: MeganC

Now that I have context:

When it comes to Scripture strictly speaking, this is Pope Francis’ most official statement.

https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/apost_letters/documents/papa-francesco-lettera-ap_20200930_scripturae-sacrae-affectus.html

I haven’t read it in a year or two, but as I recall, it is quite good, and I expect that he had Benedict ghost write it for him-—but that’s allowed.

Yes, Pope Francis is reported as saying stupid things that do not seem to whole heartedly endorse scriptural positions and tolerates people around him who say worse.

They are part of the Church, yes, but the Pope is careful not to say these things through mechanisms that formally teach that people need to heed.

There are ways of largely ignoring this Pope as a good Catholic.

Before the modern media, the Pope rarely impinged on the average person beyond being prayed for. Bishops should pay some attention to the Pope, but Bishops should also be well enough formed to know when the Pope is speaking formally and when he is speaking informally, and if his informal musings are not useful, and you can’t say anything nice, then say the Rosary.


293 posted on 05/14/2024 6:28:30 PM PDT by Hieronymus ( )
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