Posted on 03/08/2024 9:36:46 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
Nice website. I got that bookmarked now!
Israel in Egypt
Daniel in Babylon (twice)
Purim
There’s probably about a dozen others too.
Why do these guys have to lie about it?
It’s one thing to not believe in it, fine.
But they take it a step further and lie about it.
Satan really hates the idea of the Rapture because his game is up once it happens.
For those who want to know the TRUE HISTORY of the PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE as documented by Dr. Thomas Ice:
https://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1003&context=pretrib_arch
I post this so people can refute the lies that come from non-Biblical believing people who clearly want to confuse others.
Maranatha!
Not many Christians know how to rightly divide The Word.
It’s why folks get all bent out of shape on threads like this.
2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
What does it mean to be rightly dividing the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15)?
https://www.gotquestions.org/rightly-dividing-the-word-of-truth.html
Like I said, those who ascribe to this view are welcome to it. Believe in the pre-trib rapture. Don't believe in the pre-trib rapture. I care not. The whole point of my post was to point out that there is more than one view on this. Is that OK with you? You said you didn't want to debate (and neither do I), so let's leave it at that.
Well, if you calumniate me by calling me a liar, I have nothing to say to you, so I won't waste my time responding. It's really sad that you would find a difference of interpretation such a threat.
Another one ... and there are many more ...
Your #11 asserts the Doctrine of the Pretribulation Rapture is began in the 1830s.
Here is the part of your post that I’m responding to again for all to see:
“It was not developed until the early 19th century. It originated in England but is mostly held by many (not all) American evangelicals.”
That point is blatently false (see links above) and quite frankly - yes a lie.
I’m not here to make friends and there are probably hundreds of “FReepers” who have cancelled me - join the club if you don’t want to respond to me.
I will call a spade a spade however.
Good day!
As will I. But since you have (uncharitably and without basis) judged me to be a liar, I'm probably lying about that too. Good day, and God bless you.
Well, the good news is that redeemed by the Blood of Jesus Christ believers who refute the “rapture” or when it does or does not take place will still take part in it!
The bad news is that those who are not redeemed by the Blood of Jesus Christ, “Christians” in name only so to speak, will be aghast when they realize their foolishness. They will be left with a choice, get the mark or get beheaded. But before that, they may be able to still enlighten some of those clueless left behind with them as to what is actually happening.
Of course, the wicked at heart will rejoice that all these people have simply disappeared...free stuff for the taking, lots of job openings, depopulation, etc.
Unless you polled people yourself, you cannot make that kind of claim because you don't know. You have no idea how many Christians believe it and how many people who claim to be Christian believe it.
That’s a great, very concise, article. Thanks for posting that!
{sigh} As I've pointed out to you time and again, the majority of Christians in the world are either Catholic (3.3 billion), Orthodox and other Eastern Churches (about 300 million) who do not ascribe to modern Dispensationalism vastly outnumber the American influenced Evangelical Protestants and Protestant Fundamentalists (about 1.8 million) that are the ones who primarily embrace modern Dispensationalism. Why can't you accept that other Christians have a different interpretation of Scripture than you?
For me, the “snatching away” of Enoch before Noah and the Flood, serves as a picture of the Rapture.
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The Hope of Christ’s Second Coming: How is it Taught in Scripture? And Why? Samuel Prideaux Tregelles. March 17, 1864.
“I am not aware that there was any definite teaching that there would be a SECRET rapture of the Church at a SECRET coming, until this was given forth as an utterance in Mr. Irving’s Church, from what was there received as being the voice of the Spirit. But whether anyone ever asserted such a thing or not, it was from that supposed revelation that the modern doctrine and the modern phraseology respecting it arose. It came not from Holy Scripture, but from that which falsely pretended to be the Spirit of God, while not owning the true doctrine of our Lord’s incarnation in the same flesh and blood as His brethren, but without taint of sin.
“But there is a very different theory of the coming of the Lord as the hope of His Church, which many teach, and which many more receive, as though it were unquestioned truth.”
“It is said that there shall be a SECRET coming of the Lord Jesus Christ; that at this SECRET coming His believing people who are in their graves shall be raised, and the living changed, and that a SECRET rapture of the Church shall then take place; that this SECRET coming and SECRET rapture are our hope, and not the manifested appearing of Christ in the clouds of heaven.”
“It is said that after this SECRET removal of the Church, the full manifestation of human evil, for some years at least, will take place, during which time shall be the display of the power of Antichrist,—the persecutions foretold in the Revelation, the extreme trials of Israel, the unequaled tribulation,—and that the end of this will be the manifestation of Christ visibly coming with His Church in the cloud of glory.”
“This is the doctrine of the SECRET coming of Christ, which many now preach as if it were the acknowledged truth of God, instead of its being (as is really the case) that which at every point would require proof from Scripture.”
“But not only is this doctrine of the coming of Christ not taught in the Word of God, but if, in what has been previously said, there is any point of truth, then this whole system stands in distinct contradiction of what the Scripture reveals.”
I love how you think!
Great point!
Harpazo
harpazó: to seize, catch up, snatch away
Original Word: ἁρπάζω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: harpazó
Phonetic Spelling: (har-pad’-zo)
Definition: to seize, catch up, snatch away
Usage: I seize, snatch, obtain by robbery.
As in the following verses:
John 10:28
Acts 8:39 (Philip’s Rapture)
2 Corinthians 12:2 (Paul’s Rapture)
1 Thessalonians 4:17 (Rapture of the Church)
https://biblehub.com/greek/726.htm
Enoch was taken
Noah serves as another example
Lot & Daughters serves as another example as they leave Sodom
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